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Britvic FY results

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Britvic FY results

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Postby Horsey » November 30th, 2016, 8:45 am

Mybe not one that most hold, but of interest to me ;) Market seems to like, SP up almost 5% this morning

Group Financial Headlines:

· Revenue increased 10.1% to £1,431.3m

· Pre-exceptional EBITA* increased 8.4% to £186.1m

· Like-for-like revenue* increased 0.4%

· Like-for-like pre-exceptional EBITA* increased 3.8% to £178.8m

· Profit after tax increased 10.3% to £114.5m

· Adjusted earnings per share* increased 6.5% to 49.3p

· Full year dividend per share of 24.5p, an increase of 6.5%

The board is recommending a final dividend of 17.5p per share, an increase of 7.4% on the dividend declared last year, with a total value of £46.0m. The final dividend will be paid on 3 February 2017 to shareholders on record as at 9 December 2016. The ex-dividend date is 8 December 2016.

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby Breelander » November 30th, 2016, 11:58 am


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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby toofast2live » December 1st, 2016, 5:22 pm

Why, with a 4% yield is Britvic not mentioned more often as a smaller company HYP candidate?

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby Gengulphus » December 3rd, 2016, 8:57 am

toofast2live wrote:Why, with a 4% yield is Britvic not mentioned more often as a smaller company HYP candidate?


Possibly because you're understating the case? On a dividend of 24.5p and the current share price of 533p, it's got a yield of 4.6%. That's 15% more income than one would get from a 4%-yielder, which is fairly significant in an income-oriented strategy...

As a more serious answer to your question, probably because it's only recently moved back into range (I do remember it having been mentioned before on the TMF boards, probably about 5-10 years ago). Look at a share price chart, and you'll see that its price has fallen quite a bit in the last year from around 700p - a level it had been roughly at for the previous two years. So 1, 2 and 3 years ago, its yield was about 23p/700p = 3.3%, 20.9p/700p = 3.0% and 18.4p/700p = 2.6% - not levels that will get most HYPers excited.

Haven't looked at it properly yet, but it would have made an interesting alternative to Greene King for the current GDHYP purchase: a somewhat lower market cap (£1.4b compared with £2.1b), slightly lower yield (4.6% compared with 4.8%), but better diversified from Marston's, which I think is the closest existing holding to both of them. Oh well, too late now - and I must admit I'm glad there wasn't another candidate, since the current 9 plus the "none of them at all suitable" option maxed out the 10 options on the poll. (Yes, I know that I could ask stooz & Clariman to increase the number, and probably will - but there almost certainly wouldn't have been time to do so this time. What I do have now is evidence that 10 poll options is pretty marginal as regards being adequate, to support asking for an increase.)

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby toofast2live » December 3rd, 2016, 9:05 am

Coke yields nowhere near 4% for a Brit paying even a reduced withholding tax. You do mean Coke listed in the USA (KO) don't you? Last time I looked yahoo finance was quoting a yield of about 3.5%, BEFORE withholding tax.

If KO had a yield of 4% I'd snap it up!

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby kempiejon » December 3rd, 2016, 9:43 am

Gengulphus wrote:As a more serious answer to your question, probably because it's only recently moved back into range (I do remember it having been mentioned before on the TMF boards, probably about 5-10 years ago). Look at a share price chart, and you'll see that its price has fallen quite a bit in the last year from around 700p - a level it had been roughly at for the previous two years. So 1, 2 and 3 years ago, its yield was about 23p/700p = 3.3%, 20.9p/700p = 3.0% and 18.4p/700p = 2.6% - not levels that will get most HYPers excited.
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It made its way to my portfolio in 2011, I might well have posted in TMF about that, in fact its possible the boards gave the input to research more. I sold in 2015 to move funds into the ISA and take the gain, it had risen from £4.40 to £7.60, and I had higher yielders on offer.

Gengulphus makes the point about it being better diversified than greene king and I added to them recently, also a much better yield than Coke with out the overseasness that I'd avoid.

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby Gengulphus » December 3rd, 2016, 9:54 am

kempiejon wrote:Gengulphus makes the point about it being better diversified than greene king ...


Just to emphasise that it wasn't as general a point as that - it was that Britvic was better diversified than Greene King for a HYP that already contains Marston's. For a portfolio that already contained Coke and didn't contain Marston's, it would probably be the other way around!

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby Arborbridge » December 4th, 2016, 8:55 am

I've just got a feeling that they was some trouble at Britvic, which might have meant HYPers paid it less attention.

Was there something like a profit warning, or a couple of bad years? I remembering thinking it was no where near as secure as Greene King at the time - but why, escapes me!


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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby BigPic » December 4th, 2016, 9:41 am

Arborbridge wrote:I've just got a feeling that they was some trouble at Britvic, which might have meant HYPers paid it less attention.

Was there something like a profit warning, or a couple of bad years? I remembering thinking it was no where near as secure as Greene King at the time - but why, escapes me!


Arb.


A soft drinks tax is coming in 2018. I am not sure what the scale of the impact is, but this needs a bit more research to figures out how big a deal it is. The company has moved to focus brands on a low or zero sugar content though.

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby Gengulphus » December 4th, 2016, 10:41 am

Arborbridge wrote:I've just got a feeling that they was some trouble at Britvic, which might have meant HYPers paid it less attention.

Was there something like a profit warning, or a couple of bad years? I remembering thinking it was no where near as secure as Greene King at the time - but why, escapes me!


A bit of searching on TMF has produced:

https://web.archive.org/web/20161204101358/http://boards.fool.co.uk/britvic-any-thoughts-12163136.aspx?sort=whole (from 2011)
https://web.archive.org/web/20120717024258/http://boards.fool.co.uk/britvic-only-for-the-brave-12595964.aspx?sort=whole#12595964 (from 2012)

which commented on high debt, negative shareholders' funds, and a negative trading update.

Note I haven't by any means looked properly at all the material available - there are hundreds of mentions of the company on the two high yield boards alone! Just a quick skim through search results and picking out a few likely candidates for the trouble you mention.

And of course, a lot can change in 5 or 10 years - so treat the above as indicating possible problem areas and that one should check to see whether the company has overcome them, not as any sort of indication of current problems.

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby kempiejon » December 4th, 2016, 10:44 am

Arb,

Well remembered it was the fruitshoot brand that got into trouble with a new cap being recalled, here's some reading http://www.packagingnews.co.uk/features ... 16-10-2012
In fact it seems a quick google throws a few more news hitting problems.

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Re: Britvic FY results

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Postby Gengulphus » December 4th, 2016, 10:44 am

And a couple of earlier mentions that I had to edit out of the last reply because this posting software won't permit more than 3 URLs in a post:

https://web.archive.org/web/20161204102803/http://boards.fool.co.uk/britvic-9867726.aspx (poor 2006 trading statement)
https://web.archive.org/web/20161204103105/http://boards.fool.co.uk/britvic-9997568.aspx?sort=whole (mention of a possible contracting market in 2006)

Goodness knows how I'm going to post any of my HYP reports...

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