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Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 8:08 pm
by Clitheroekid
Yes, not a sequence of words that's often seen, but I was truly amazed at the prices on this menu from the Regency Cafe in Regency Street.

I'm not promoting it, as I've no interest in doing so, and for all I know the food's terrible, but it's like looking at a provincial cafe menu from about 10 years ago, and at one in Westminster from maybe 20 years ago.

https://regencycafe.has.restaurant/menu/

I don't know how they manage it, but more power to their elbow! :)

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 8:17 pm
by Mike4
They must be able to do it because of the massive footfall past their front door I reckon, leading to a high turnover.

The same effect seems to happen with petrol stations. Despite the rent on a central London site being (probably) being ten times the rent on a sleepy village petrol station in rural Wiltshire, they both seem to flog petrol and diesel for the same price. The London stations a little cheaper even.

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 8:18 pm
by Lootman
I have not been there. But the worst food poisoning I ever got was in a very similar greasy spoon joint in nearby Fulham, SW6. I had a job interview the next day and I was as sick as a dog for the entire day. Did not get the job. Should have spent more. :D

Mike4 wrote:They must be able to do it because of the massive footfall past their front door I reckon, leading to a high turnover.

The same effect seems to happen with petrol stations. Despite the rent on a central London site being (probably) being ten times the rent on a sleepy village petrol station in rural Wiltshire, they both seem to flog petrol and diesel for the same price. The London stations a little cheaper even.

A similar mystery is why the only two US states that bar you from filling your own petrol tank (New Jersey and Oregon) have the lowest gas prices.

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 9:07 pm
by Mike4
Lootman wrote:A similar mystery is why the only two US states that bar you from filling your own petrol tank (New Jersey and Oregon) have the lowest gas prices.


Frankly I don't see what on earth gas prices have to do with filling one's tank with petrol. But then nowadays I heat with an oil boiler and a wood burner so maybe i'm right out of touch.

(Well you did leave an open goal for that one, lol!)

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 9:10 pm
by Dicky99
Clitheroekid wrote:Yes, not a sequence of words that's often seen, but I was truly amazed at the prices on this menu from the Regency Cafe in Regency Street.

I'm not promoting it, as I've no interest in doing so, and for all I know the food's terrible, but it's like looking at a provincial cafe menu from about 10 years ago, and at one in Westminster from maybe 20 years ago.

https://regencycafe.has.restaurant/menu/

I don't know how they manage it, but more power to their elbow! :)


This cafe featured in a rather violent opening scene of the film Layer Cake. Not for the squeamish.

https://youtu.be/U0z62IALjqM?feature=shared

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 10:51 pm
by CliffEdge
Lootman wrote:I have not been there. But the worst food poisoning I ever got was in a very similar greasy spoon joint in nearby Fulham, SW6. I had a job interview the next day and I was as sick as a dog for the entire day. Did not get the job. Should have spent more. :D

Mike4 wrote:They must be able to do it because of the massive footfall past their front door I reckon, leading to a high turnover.

The same effect seems to happen with petrol stations. Despite the rent on a central London site being (probably) being ten times the rent on a sleepy village petrol station in rural Wiltshire, they both seem to flog petrol and diesel for the same price. The London stations a little cheaper even.

A similar mystery is why the only two US states that bar you from filling your own petrol tank (New Jersey and Oregon) have the lowest gas prices.

Serves you right for going to London. London really belongs in Wales, they are made for each other (though Llandudno isn't too bad actually but I've never met a Welsh person there).

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 10:53 pm
by Lootman
CliffEdge wrote: Llandudno isn't too bad actually but I've never met a Welsh person there.

It is the gay capital of Wales, I was told.

So I guess the Welsh do not do gay.

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 11:12 pm
by CliffEdge
Lootman wrote:
CliffEdge wrote: Llandudno isn't too bad actually but I've never met a Welsh person there.

It is the gay capital of Wales, I was told.

So I guess the Welsh do not do gay.


The last thing you could regard the Welsh as being is gay. Every Welshman I've met has been miserable.

I think it was E.Waugh who wrote: "I often think, that we can trace all the disasters of English history to the influence of Wales." "The Welsh", said the Doctor, "Are the only nation in the world that has produced no graphic or plastic art, no architecture, no drama. They just sing", he said with disgust, "Sing and blow wind instruments of plated silver. I have noticed again and again, since I have been in the church that lay interest in ecclesiastical matters is a prelude to insanity."

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 11:23 pm
by UncleEbenezer
Lootman wrote:
CliffEdge wrote: Llandudno isn't too bad actually but I've never met a Welsh person there.

It is the gay capital of Wales, I was told.

So I guess the Welsh do not do gay.

You wouldn't by any chance be suggesting a hint of ovophilia?

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 11:31 pm
by CliffEdge
UncleEbenezer wrote:
Lootman wrote:It is the gay capital of Wales, I was told.

So I guess the Welsh do not do gay.

You wouldn't by any chance be suggesting a hint of ovophilia?

Possibly in a country that names its capital city, "Swansea".

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 18th, 2023, 11:39 pm
by bluedonkey

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 21st, 2023, 8:39 am
by nautical
Purely a guess on my part, but I wonder if long term ownership of such places, rather than rented premises, whether high footfall or rather niche (like the model aircraft shop near us) is what helps keep their costs low and selling prices reasonable?

Of course, being good at what you offer is important too.

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 21st, 2023, 9:11 am
by Mike4
nautical wrote:Purely a guess on my part, but I wonder if long term ownership of such places, rather than rented premises, whether high footfall or rather niche (like the model aircraft shop near us) is what helps keep their costs low and selling prices reasonable?

Of course, being good at what you offer is important too.


I think you're right on the first count. A premises owned outright (often in the family for generations) allows a business the luxury of not needing to make as much gross profit as its surrounding competitors as no massive quarterly rent payment is sucking out all the cash from the business. They still have Business Rates to pay though, which nowadays is often a similar sized sum to the rent.

High footfall can compensate for an expensive rent too, as I often think must be the case with the pitches surrounding the London terminus railway stations. The pitch rent is probably massive as is the turnover.

Not sure how being a niche retailer can compensate for a high rent though. But yes in all cases the business still needs to be run slickly and competently by managers with longer experience at their game.

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 21st, 2023, 11:31 am
by Mike88
CliffEdge wrote:
UncleEbenezer wrote:You wouldn't by any chance be suggesting a hint of ovophilia?

Possibly in a country that names its capital city, "Swansea".


Swansea the capital of Wales? Seriously or am I missing something?

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 21st, 2023, 11:34 am
by CliffEdge
Mike88 wrote:
CliffEdge wrote:Possibly in a country that names its capital city, "Swansea".


Swansea the capital of Wales? Seriously or am I missing something?

You're definitely not missing anything in Swansea.

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 21st, 2023, 11:55 am
by terminal7
CliffEdge wrote:
Mike88 wrote:
Swansea the capital of Wales? Seriously or am I missing something?

You're definitely not missing anything in Swansea.


How dare you - El Pescador - great fish restaurant though a little more expensive than the Regency Cafe.

Taffy7

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 21st, 2023, 11:57 am
by CliffEdge
terminal7 wrote:
CliffEdge wrote:You're definitely not missing anything in Swansea.


How dare you - El Pescador - great fish restaurant though a little more expensive than the Regency Cafe.

Taffy7

Ta

Re: Amazing value in SW1

Posted: October 21st, 2023, 1:21 pm
by bluedonkey
Clitheroekid wrote:Yes, not a sequence of words that's often seen, but I was truly amazed at the prices on this menu from the Regency Cafe in Regency Street.

I'm not promoting it, as I've no interest in doing so, and for all I know the food's terrible, but it's like looking at a provincial cafe menu from about 10 years ago, and at one in Westminster from maybe 20 years ago.

https://regencycafe.has.restaurant/menu/

I don't know how they manage it, but more power to their elbow! :)

I think I've walked past it, in a side street between Victoria and Pimlico.