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Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 3rd, 2023, 8:00 pm
by Dicky99
There was a time when I'd never heard of someone being "more better" at something, of the weather being "more hotter today than yesterday" or of "this thing being much more nicer than that thing" but it seems to be a thing now. When did this start and who is responsible? I actually heard a tv sports presenter on last night's Hundred refer to "more quicker". Sports presenter using sloppy diction. Whatever next.

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 3rd, 2023, 8:02 pm
by Lootman
Dicky99 wrote:There was a time when I'd never heard of someone being "more better" at something, of the weather being "more hotter today than yesterday" or of "this thing being much more nicer than that thing" but it seems to be a thing now. When did this start and who is responsible? I actually heard a tv sports presenter on last night's Hundred refer to "more quicker". Sports presenter using sloppy diction. Whatever next.

Isn't it the art of emphasis?

So that asserting "A is more better than B" connotes a greater amount of betterment than merely and weakly stating that "A is better than B".

I would only start worrying when someone says "A is much bigly better than what B is, innit".

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 3rd, 2023, 9:12 pm
by Mike4
Dicky99 wrote: Sports presenter using sloppy diction. Whatever next.


A sports presenter using poor grammar, probably.


Well you did ask.

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 3rd, 2023, 10:17 pm
by dealtn
Mike4 wrote:
Dicky99 wrote: Sports presenter using sloppy diction. Whatever next.


A sports presenter using poor grammar, probably.


Well you did ask.


Somebody, complaining about others at Pedants' Place, using a full stop instead of a question mark?

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 3rd, 2023, 10:42 pm
by Dicky99
dealtn wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
A sports presenter using poor grammar, probably.


Well you did ask.


Somebody, complaining about others at Pedants' Place, using a full stop instead of a question mark?


Or using a question mark in lieu of a full stop.

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 3rd, 2023, 11:24 pm
by UncleEbenezer
Dicky99 wrote:There was a time when I'd never heard of someone being "more better" a[...]
Whatever next.


Is this any betterer?

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 3rd, 2023, 11:27 pm
by DrFfybes
UncleEbenezer wrote:
Dicky99 wrote:There was a time when I'd never heard of someone being "more better" a[...]
Whatever next.


Is this any betterer?


That's a lot more betterer

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 5:59 am
by Mike4
Dicky99 wrote:
dealtn wrote:
Somebody, complaining about others at Pedants' Place, using a full stop instead of a question mark?


Or using a question mark in lieu of a full stop.


I was sorely tempted to comment on that too, but felt it would dilute the impact of my answer to the (implied) question.


But the thing that really gets my goat is people ending a statement with a question mark?

Why do they do that.

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 6:13 am
by servodude
Mike4 wrote:
Dicky99 wrote:
Or using a question mark in lieu of a full stop.


I was sorely tempted to comment on that too, but felt it would dilute the impact of my answer to the (implied) question.


But the thing that really gets my goat is people ending a statement with a question mark?

Why do they do that.


I imagine it is because they expect an answer?

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 6:22 am
by Mike4
servodude wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
I was sorely tempted to comment on that too, but felt it would dilute the impact of my answer to the (implied) question.


But the thing that really gets my goat is people ending a statement with a question mark?

Why do they do that.


I imagine it is because they expect an answer?



I'm anticipating an intervention from that nice Mr Poe any second now...

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 9:34 am
by GoSeigen
Mike4 wrote:
Dicky99 wrote:
Or using a question mark in lieu of a full stop.


I was sorely tempted to comment on that too, but felt it would dilute the impact of my answer to the (implied) question.


But the thing that really gets my goat is people ending a statement with a question mark?

Why do they do that.



Probably the same reason they end a statement with rising intonation?

GS

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 10:53 am
by Mike4
GoSeigen wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
I was sorely tempted to comment on that too, but felt it would dilute the impact of my answer to the (implied) question.


But the thing that really gets my goat is people ending a statement with a question mark?

Why do they do that.



Probably the same reason they end a statement with rising intonation?

GS


Could be. I blame Kylie and "Neighbours" for that!

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 11:01 am
by DrFfybes
Mike4 wrote:
GoSeigen wrote:
Probably the same reason they end a statement with rising intonation?

GS


Could be. I blame Kylie and "Neighbours" for that!


You do.

You do?

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 1:33 pm
by jfgw
Adnams Broadside is better that Greene King IPA, but Mighty Oak Saxon Strong is more better.

That seems grammatically correct to me. "Better still" sounds better though.


Julian F. G. W.

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 1:41 pm
by servodude
jfgw wrote:Adnams Broadside is better that Greene King IPA, but Mighty Oak Saxon Strong is more better.

That seems grammatically correct to me. "Better still" sounds better though.


Julian F. G. W.


Indeed.
Better is better than good, more better is better than better, and better still is better still.
I think

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 2:39 pm
by UncleEbenezer
servodude wrote:
jfgw wrote:Adnams Broadside is better that Greene King IPA, but Mighty Oak Saxon Strong is more better.

That seems grammatically correct to me. "Better still" sounds better though.


Julian F. G. W.


Indeed.
Better is better than good, more better is better than better, and better still is better still.
I think

You're mixing your drinks there. You don't use a still for beer, no matter how muchly betterer it is!

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 3:39 pm
by bungeejumper
On a nice warm sunny afternoon like this, I'd say the biggerer and betterer and largerer the lager from the local lagerer, the betterer the betting that I'll run out of stupid word game ideas and just drink it. Cheers. :D

BJ

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 3:54 pm
by kiloran
jfgw wrote:Adnams Broadside is better that Greene King IPA, but Mighty Oak Saxon Strong is more better.

That seems grammatically correct to me. "Better still" sounds better though.

Julian F. G. W.

Don't you mean Mighty Oak Saxon Strong is is bitterer?

--kiloran

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 4th, 2023, 6:14 pm
by jfgw
UncleEbenezer wrote:You're mixing your drinks there. You don't use a still for beer, no matter how muchly betterer it is!

But you can use a still to turn this,
"OSCAR WILDE 3.7% abv dark mild
Dark and delicious award winning mild. Mellow, nutty and moreish."
https://www.mightyoakbrewing.co.uk/product/oscar-wilde/
Into this,
"WILDE SPIRIT 40% abv SINGLE MALT SPIRIT
Distilled from the award winning Oscar Wilde mild."
https://www.mightyoakbrewing.co.uk/product/wilde-spirit/


Julian F. G. W.

Re: Gradations of adjectives ending in -er

Posted: August 5th, 2023, 10:24 am
by marronier
More better can only compare two beers. So , of all the beers available ,which is the most bestest. If you have a double comparative then there must be a double superlative.