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The disappearing verb

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The disappearing verb

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Postby stewamax » October 1st, 2023, 12:32 pm

On BBC News app this morning:
"Yury Garavsky had confessed to being part of a hit squad in Belarus that forcibly disappeared prominent members of the country's opposition. "
WHAT?? Is disappear now a transitive verb??

Woof!
Yours etc
Disgusted of Rutland

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby swill453 » October 1st, 2023, 12:39 pm

See also "unalive". To unalive someone i.e. to kill them.

In this case probably to get around banned words on social media.

Scott.

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby Urbandreamer » October 1st, 2023, 1:21 pm

stewamax wrote:On BBC News app this morning:
"Yury Garavsky had confessed to being part of a hit squad in Belarus that forcibly disappeared prominent members of the country's opposition. "
WHAT?? Is disappear now a transitive verb??

Woof!
Yours etc
Disgusted of Rutland


Err, apparently it has been a transient verb for about a generation (some say from the 80's or 90's).

Here is "a" dictionary link.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disappear
and another
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... /disappear

I confess though that I still have trouble with verbs like deplane.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... sh/deplane

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby Mike4 » October 1st, 2023, 2:36 pm

Urbandreamer wrote:
I confess though that I still have trouble with verbs like deplane.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... sh/deplane


I castigated someone on line a while ago for writing "disassemble" when they meant dismantle.Turns out that is a real word too!

It still grates...

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby kiloran » October 1st, 2023, 4:08 pm

Urbandreamer wrote:
stewamax wrote:On BBC News app this morning:
"Yury Garavsky had confessed to being part of a hit squad in Belarus that forcibly disappeared prominent members of the country's opposition. "
WHAT?? Is disappear now a transitive verb??

Woof!
Yours etc
Disgusted of Rutland


Err, apparently it has been a transient verb for about a generation (some say from the 80's or 90's).

Here is "a" dictionary link.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disappear
and another
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... /disappear

I confess though that I still have trouble with verbs like deplane.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... sh/deplane

What? A transient verb? Like, here-today-and-gone-tomorrow verb? In fact, a "disappearing" verb!

--kiloran

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby servodude » October 1st, 2023, 11:19 pm

kiloran wrote:
Urbandreamer wrote:
Err, apparently it has been a transient verb for about a generation (some say from the 80's or 90's).

Here is "a" dictionary link.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disappear
and another
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... /disappear

I confess though that I still have trouble with verbs like deplane.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... sh/deplane

What? A transient verb? Like, here-today-and-gone-tomorrow verb? In fact, a "disappearing" verb!

--kiloran


I think we might have witnessed Muphry's Law being broken

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby garfsuncle » October 2nd, 2023, 12:43 am

servodude wrote:
kiloran wrote:What? A transient verb? Like, here-today-and-gone-tomorrow verb? In fact, a "disappearing" verb!

--kiloran


I think we might have witnessed Muphry's Law being broken


Don’t know about his Law, but Murphy himself seems to be cracking up.

I get irritated by verbs morphing into nouns: Wow! That’s a big ASK. Ugh!

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby bungeejumper » October 3rd, 2023, 6:59 pm

garfsuncle wrote:I get irritated by verbs morphing into nouns: Wow! That’s a big ASK. Ugh!

Huh, some people just haven't learned to language. They're happy to talk about lacing their shoes or buttering their bread, or boycotting Amazon or petitioning somebody for a change of heart, but then they get all upset about keyboarding it in and emailing it to its recipient.

Every now and then, something useful emerges. I still haven't found an accurate alternative to the ugly 1990s verb "to parent" that doesn't run to twelve or fifteen syllables. You know, people are transitioning their lives these days, and that sort of thing needs to be clearly statemented. ;)

BJ

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby UncleEbenezer » October 4th, 2023, 9:11 am

bungeejumper wrote:
garfsuncle wrote:I get irritated by verbs morphing into nouns: Wow! That’s a big ASK. Ugh!

Huh, some people just haven't learned to language. They're happy to talk about lacing their shoes or buttering their bread, or boycotting Amazon or petitioning somebody for a change of heart, but then they get all upset about keyboarding it in and emailing it to its recipient.

Every now and then, something useful emerges. I still haven't found an accurate alternative to the ugly 1990s verb "to parent" that doesn't run to twelve or fifteen syllables. You know, people are transitioning their lives these days, and that sort of thing needs to be clearly statemented. ;)

BJ

Can I be arséd to reply to that?

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby garfsuncle » October 7th, 2023, 12:08 am

And I wasn’t permitted to allude to A***nal!

Alan

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby GoSeigen » October 7th, 2023, 7:16 am

bungeejumper wrote:
garfsuncle wrote:I get irritated by verbs morphing into nouns: Wow! That’s a big ASK. Ugh!

Huh, some people just haven't learned to language. They're happy to talk about lacing their shoes or buttering their bread, or boycotting Amazon or petitioning somebody for a change of heart, but then they get all upset about keyboarding it in and emailing it to its recipient.

Every now and then, something useful emerges. I still haven't found an accurate alternative to the ugly 1990s verb "to parent" that doesn't run to twelve or fifteen syllables. You know, people are transitioning their lives these days, and that sort of thing needs to be clearly statemented. ;)

BJ


My pet peeve is sieving. Urgh.

GS

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby NomoneyNohoney » October 23rd, 2023, 8:26 am

Wait till someone inboxes you.

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby Mike4 » October 23rd, 2023, 8:41 am

(Yet) another of my pet hates is the term "due diligence", or more accurately, the way it is used. As in "Doing due diligence."

I think it originated in football (but has since spread into business) as in, for example, "They signed him up without doing their due diligence". Yuk.

Grates horribly for me but having made this comment on other forums, no-one seems to agree with me!

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby 88V8 » October 23rd, 2023, 10:45 am

Mike4 wrote:(Yet) another of my pet hates is the term "due diligence", or more accurately, the way it is used. As in "Doing due diligence."
I think it originated in football (but has since spread into business) as in, for example, "They signed him up without doing their due diligence". Yuk.
Grates horribly for me but having made this comment on other forums, no-one seems to agree with me!

I agree. Should have said 'he was laxly scoped out'.

V8

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby UncleEbenezer » October 23rd, 2023, 11:03 am

Mike4 wrote:(Yet) another of my pet hates is the term "due diligence", or more accurately, the way it is used. As in "Doing due diligence."

I think it originated in football (but has since spread into business) as in, for example, "They signed him up without doing their due diligence". Yuk.

Grates horribly for me but having made this comment on other forums, no-one seems to agree with me!


:o I had no idea there was any football connection there. Have I failed in my due diligence before using the expression in everyday discourse?

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Re: The disappearing verb

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Postby Watis » October 23rd, 2023, 12:41 pm

I've not encountered 'due diligence' in any field other than company finance.

There, it has a clear legal meaning - and the Wikipedia page for it supports that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_diligence

Apparently, the phrase dates from the fifteenth century, so pre-dates football but not business.

Watis


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