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Why a chat ?

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Postby poundcoin » January 12th, 2017, 8:47 pm

Not sure if it was just a regional word but if something was filthy or dirty it may be described as "chatty" .

This was probably from Tommies in WW1 calling the lice in their uniform "chats" .
The French for lice is nothing like that (Les poux) and from my schoolboy French "chat" was cat .

So DAK why soldiers called lice , chats ?

This from the Arbroath Herald , Dec 1918 confirming the word chat and that they preferred the seams of clothing .
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Re: Why a chat ?

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Postby TwmSionCati » January 12th, 2017, 9:31 pm

The Oxford English Dictionary (2000) doesn't know either:
chat, n.7 (Thieves' Cant.): A louse.
- 1690 B. E. Dict. Cant. Crew, Chatts, lice.
- 1725 in New Cant. Dict.
- 1812 J. H. Vaux Flash Dict., Chats, lice.

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Re: Why a chat ?

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Postby poundcoin » January 12th, 2017, 10:57 pm

TwmSionCati wrote:The Oxford English Dictionary (2000) doesn't know either:
chat, n.7 (Thieves' Cant.): A louse.
- 1690 B. E. Dict. Cant. Crew, Chatts, lice.
- 1725 in New Cant. Dict.
- 1812 J. H. Vaux Flash Dict., Chats, lice.


Crikey much older than WW1 then .

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Re: Why a chat ?

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Postby DrFfybes » January 12th, 2017, 11:26 pm

I always thought it came from 'scratch' or 'itch'.

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Re: Why a chat ?

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Postby redsturgeon » January 13th, 2017, 9:22 am

I enjoy an Indian starter called chicken chaat.

Looking at Wikipedia it says this:
Chaat (Hindi/Nepali: चाट, Urdu/Punjabi: چاٹ ) is a term describing savory snacks, typically served at road-side tracks from stalls or food carts in India, Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh.[1][2] With its origins in Uttar Pradesh,[3] chaat has become immensely popular in the rest of South Asia. The word derives from Hindi cāṭ चाट (tasting, a delicacy), from cāṭnā चाटना (to lick), from Prakrit caṭṭei चट्टेइ (to devour with relish, eat noisily).[4]


Knowing how many words we have borrowed from Hindi it would not be beyond the bounds of possibility that going for a "chaat" became synonymous with having an informal conversation with or without accompanying savoury snacks.

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Re: Why a chat ?

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Postby bungeejumper » January 13th, 2017, 9:23 am

So much for Chatsworth House, then!

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Re: Why a chat ?

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Postby poundcoin » January 13th, 2017, 11:08 am

redsturgeon wrote:....words we have borrowed from Hindi it would not be beyond the bounds of possibility that going for a "chaat" became synonymous with having an informal conversation with or without accompanying savoury snacks.

John


Whilst having a "chaat" may as well accompany it with a cup of "char".


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