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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby idpickering » January 5th, 2023, 3:50 pm

HSBC are up over 4% as I type.

On looking at the HSBC page on HL site, in the 'news' segment on that page there's this;

JEFFERIES UPGRADES HSBC TO 'BUY'.

Jefferies upgraded HSBC on Thursday to 'buy' from 'hold' and hiked the price target to 770p from 574p as it said the bank was positively-geared to a re-opening in China.
"We believe the China/HK re-opening and capital return prospects of HSBC are underappreciated attributes which create positive return/risk asymmetry and move us to buy on the name," Jefferies said.

Jefferies pointed out that 37% of loans and 36% of pre-tax profit are attributed to China & HK and said it expects a re-opened economy to drive higher loan demand and general activity, which should benefit HSBC.

"HK and mainland China have modestly higher net interest margins for the group, so a pick-up in loan growth in these regions should be accretive to the group," it said.

Jefferies also said it now estimates that the sale of the bank's Canada business can unlock $14bn of buybacks and special dividends across 2023 and 2024 and sees credible re-rating potential given estimated 13% return on tangible equity in 2024 against 0.8x TBV today.

At 0930 GMT, HSBC shares were up 2.3% at 555.80p.


https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-sear ... ry-usd0.50

I hold HSBC.

Whether or not the upswing in HSBC SP is because of this matter is up for grabs of course.

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby Dod101 » January 5th, 2023, 4:27 pm

Glad to hear that Ian. Keep typing.

Like a number of UK listed shares I think we might get a pleasant surprise this year with HSBC.

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby monabri » January 5th, 2023, 4:41 pm

Dod101 wrote:Glad to hear that Ian. Keep typing.

Like a number of UK listed shares I think we might get a pleasant surprise this year with HSBC.

Dod


Just don't tell Sam Woods of the PRA !!

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby scrumpyjack » January 5th, 2023, 4:56 pm

monabri wrote:
Dod101 wrote:Glad to hear that Ian. Keep typing.

Like a number of UK listed shares I think we might get a pleasant surprise this year with HSBC.

Dod


Just don't tell Sam Woods of the PRA !!


If he sticks his nose in again, it would be Prudent for HSBC to change its domicile

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby idpickering » January 6th, 2023, 9:37 am

Overseas Regulatory Announcement.

On 6 January 2023, HSBC submitted the below announcement to the Stock Exchange of Hong Kong Limited regarding modifications to the Listing Rules of the Stock Exchange of Hong Kong Limited to enable HSBC to hold Treasury Shares.

Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing Limited and The Stock Exchange of Hong Kong Limited take no responsibility for the contents of this document, make no representation as to its accuracy or completeness and expressly disclaim any liability whatsoever for any loss howsoever arising from or in reliance upon the whole or any part of the contents of this document.

Hong Kong Stock Code: 5

Modifications to the Listing Rules of the Stock Exchange of Hong Kong Limited (the "Exchange") the subject of a conditional Waiver made by the Exchange on 19 December 2005 to enable HSBC Holdings plc ("HSBC") to hold treasury shares


https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 30029369L/

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby Tedx » January 12th, 2023, 10:57 am

Yay. I'm in profit!

It's been a while since I've seen green numbers in the HSBA column.....

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby Tedx » January 12th, 2023, 11:12 am

Tedx wrote:Yay. I'm in profit!

It's been a while since I've seen green numbers in the HSBA column.....


Oh no.....hold the phone...... :cry:

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby idpickering » February 21st, 2023, 4:59 am

2022 Q4 RESULTS.

Noel Quinn, Group Chief Executive, said:
“2022 was another good year for HSBC. We completed the first phase of our transformation and our international connectivity is now
underpinned by good, broad-based profit generation around the world. This contributed to a strong overall financial performance. We are on
track to deliver higher returns in 2023 and have built a platform for further value creation. With the delivery of higher returns, we will have
increased distribution capacity, and we will also consider a special dividend once the sale of HSBC Canada is completed.”
2022 financial performance (vs 2021)
• Reported profit before tax fell by $1.4bn to $17.5bn, including an impairment on the planned sale of our retail banking operations in France
of $2.4bn. Adjusted profit before tax increased by $3.4bn to $24.0bn. Reported profit after tax increased by $2.0bn to $16.7bn,
including a $2.2bn credit arising from the recognition of a deferred tax asset.
• Reported revenue increased by 4% to $51.7bn, driven by strong growth in net interest income, with increases in all of our global
businesses, and higher revenue from Global Foreign Exchange in Global Banking and Markets (‘GBM’). This was in part offset by a $3.1bn
adverse impact of foreign currency translation differences, the impairment on the planned sale of our retail banking operations in France and
adverse movements in market impacts in insurance manufacturing in Wealth and Personal Banking (‘WPB‘). In addition, fee income fell in
both WPB and GBM. Adjusted revenue increased by 18% to $55.3bn.
• Net interest margin (‘NIM’) of 1.48% increased by 28 basis points (‘bps’), reflecting interest rate rises.
• Reported expected credit losses and other credit impairment charges (‘ECL’) were $3.6bn, including allowances to reflect increased
economic uncertainty, inflation, rising interest rates and supply chain risks, as well as the ongoing developments in mainland China‘s
commercial real estate sector. These factors were in part offset by the release of most of our remaining Covid-19-related reserves. This
compared with releases of $0.9bn in 2021. ECL charges were 36bps of average gross loans and advances to customers.
• Reported operating expenses decreased by $1.3bn or 4% to $33.3bn, reflecting the favourable impact of foreign currency translation
differences of $2.2bn and ongoing cost discipline, which were in part offset by higher restructuring and other related costs, increased
investment in technology and inflation. Adjusted operating expenses increased by $0.4bn or 1.2% to $30.5bn, including a $0.2bn adverse
impact from retranslating the 2022 results of hyperinflationary economies at constant currency.
• Customer lending balances fell by $121bn on a reported basis. On an adjusted basis, lending balances fell by $66bn, reflecting an
$81bn reclassification of loans, primarily relating to the planned sale of our retail banking operations in France and the planned sale of our
banking business in Canada, to assets held for sale. Growth in mortgage balances in the UK and Hong Kong mitigated a reduction in term
lending in Commercial Banking (‘CMB’) in Hong Kong.
• Common equity tier 1 (‘CET1’) capital ratio of 14.2% reduced by 1.6 percentage points, primarily driven by a decrease of a 0.8
percentage point from new regulatory requirements, a reduction of a 0.7 percentage point from the fall in the fair value through other
comprehensive income (‘FVOCI’) and a 0.3 percentage point fall from the impairment following the reclassification of our retail banking
operations in France to held for sale. Capital generation was mostly offset by an increase in risk-weighted assets (‘RWAs’) net of foreign
exchange translation movements.
• The Board has approved a second interim dividend of $0.23 per share, making a total for 2022 of $0.32 per share.
4Q22 financial performance (vs 4Q21)
• Reported profit before tax up $2.5bn to $5.2bn, reflecting strong reported revenue growth and lower reported operating expenses, while
reported ECL increased. Adjusted profit before tax up 92% to $6.8bn. Reported profit after tax up $2.9bn to $4.9bn.
• Reported revenue up 24% to $14.9bn, due to strong growth in net interest income and an increase in revenue from Markets and Securities
Services (‘MSS’), partly offset by the adverse impact of foreign currency translation differences. Adjusted revenue up 38% to $15.4bn.
• Reported ECL were $1.4bn in 4Q22 and included stage 3 charges relating to exposures in the mainland China commercial real estate
sector, as well as corporate exposures in the UK. This compared with charges of $0.5bn in 4Q21.
• Reported operating expenses down 6% to $8.9bn due to the favourable impact of foreign currency translation differences and ongoing
cost discipline, which more than offset increases in technology investment and performance-related pay. Adjusted operating expenses up
2% to $7.8bn.

Outlook
• The impact of our growth and transformation programmes, as well as higher global interest rates, give us confidence in achieving our
return on average tangible equity (‘RoTE‘) target of at least 12% for 2023 onwards.
• Our revenue outlook remains positive. Based on the current market consensus for global central bank rates, we expect net interest income
of at least $36bn in 2023 (on an IFRS 4 basis and retranslated for foreign exchange movements). We intend to update our net interest
income guidance at or before our first quarter results to incorporate the expected impact of IFRS 17 ‘Insurance Contracts’.
• While we continue to use a range of 30bps to 40bps of average loans for planning our ECL charge over the medium to long term, given
current macroeconomic headwinds, we expect ECL charges to be around 40bps in 2023 (including lending balances transferred to held for
sale). We note recent favourable policy developments in mainland China’s commercial real estate sector and continue to monitor events
closely.
• We retain our focus on cost discipline and will target 2023 adjusted cost growth of approximately 3% on an IFRS 4 basis. This includes
up to $300m of severance costs in 2023, which we expect to generate further efficiencies into 2024. There may also be an incremental
adverse impact from retranslating the 2022 results of hyperinflationary economies at constant currency.
HSBC Holdings plc 2022 Results 1
• We expect to manage the CET1 ratio within our medium-term target range of 14% to 14.5%. We intend to continue to manage capital
efficiently, returning excess capital to shareholders where appropriate.
• Given our current returns trajectory, we are establishing a dividend payout ratio of 50% for 2023 and 2024, excluding material significant
items, with consideration of buy-backs brought forward to our first quarter results in May 2023, subject to appropriate capital levels. We also
intend to revert to paying quarterly dividends from the first quarter of 2023.
• Subject to the completion of the sale of our banking business in Canada, the Board’s intention is to consider the payment of a special
dividend of $0.21 per share as a priority use of the proceeds generated by completion of the transaction. A decision in relation to any
potential dividend would be made following the completion of the transaction, currently expected in late 2023, with payment following in
early 2024. Further details in relation to record date and other relevant information will be published at that time. Any remaining additional
surplus capital is expected to be allocated towards opportunities for organic growth and investment alongside potential share buy-backs, which would be in addition to any existing share buy-back programme.

Interim dividends for 2023
For the financial year 2022, we achieved a dividend payout ratio within our 2022 target range of between 40% and 55% of reported earnings per
ordinary share (‘EPS’). As previously communicated, given our current returns trajectory, we are establishing a dividend payout ratio of 50% of
reported earnings per share for 2023 and 2024, excluding material significant items (including the planned sale of our retail banking operations in
France and the planned sale of our banking business in Canada). The Group intends to revert to paying quarterly dividends from the first quarter
of 2023. The dividend policy has the flexibility to adjust EPS for material significant items such as goodwill or intangibles impairments and may
be supplemented from time to time by buy-backs or special dividends, should the Group find itself in an excess capital position absent
compelling investment opportunities to deploy that excess.
Dividends are approved in US dollars and, at the election of the shareholder, paid in cash in one of, or in a combination of, US dollars, pounds
sterling and Hong Kong dollars.

Second interim dividend for 2022
The Directors have approved a second interim dividend for 2022 of $0.23 per ordinary share. Information on the currencies in which
shareholders may elect to have the cash dividend paid will be sent to shareholders on or about 24 March 2023. The interim dividend will be paid
in cash. The timetable for the interim dividend is:

Ex dividend 02 Mar 23, currency conversion rate on 17 Apr 23, paid on 27 Apr 23.


Items downloadable via here;

https://www.hsbc.com/investors/results- ... ouncements

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby idpickering » February 21st, 2023, 5:32 am

It seems that the above announcement hasn't been well received, with the HSBC SP being down over 2% on the Hong Kong market currently.
FWIW, imho they were fairly good results. HSBC CEO being interviewed on Bloomberg TV shortly.

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Postby idpickering » February 21st, 2023, 7:05 am

Annual Results 2022 Webcast and Conference Call.

HSBC will be holding a webcast presentation and conference call today for investors and analysts. The speakers will be Noel Quinn (Group Chief Executive) and Georges Elhedery (Group Chief Financial Officer).

A copy of the presentation to investors and analysts is attached and is also available to view and download at https://www.hsbc.com/investors/results- ... ting/group .

Please click on the following link to view the presentation:
http://www.rns-pdf.londonstockexchange. ... 3-2-20.pdf

Full details of how to access the conference call appear below and details of how to access the webcast can also be found at http://www.hsbc.com/investors/results-and-announcements .

Time: 8 .30am (London); 4.30pm (Hong Kong); and 3.30am (New York).


https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00085024Q/

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Postby idpickering » February 21st, 2023, 7:14 am

The RNS, for those who prefer it, regarding the above results is here;

https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00025034Q/

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby Dod101 » February 21st, 2023, 8:14 am

idpickering wrote:The RNS, for those who prefer it, regarding the above results is here;

https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00025034Q/

Ian.


As usual I must say I find it difficult to see the significant bits of these announcements although in general things seem to be positive. At last, ROCE is looking better, but the results are obscured by the likely consequences of the sale of the businesses in France and Canada.

However for those of us who like our dividends, we have a good increase in the second interim/final dividend for 2022 and the promise of a return to quarterly dividends from 2023 onwards. Then in the more distant future a distribution from the proceeds of the sale of the business in Canada is promised at a later date.

Dod

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby monabri » March 13th, 2023, 7:38 am

A new acquisition....SVB UK . Price £1.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-economy/

Paywalled but I suspect there will be (plenty ) of reports on this elsewhere!!

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Postby idpickering » March 13th, 2023, 7:45 am

monabri wrote:A new acquisition....SVB UK . Price £1.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-economy/

Paywalled but I suspect there will be (plenty ) of reports on this elsewhere!!


And here it is;

HSBC acquires Silicon Valley Bank UK.

HSBC Holdings plc announces that its UK ring-fenced subsidiary, HSBC UK Bank plc, is acquiring Silicon Valley Bank UK Limited (SVB UK) for £1.

As at 10 March 2023, SVB UK had loans of around £5.5bn and deposits of around £6.7bn. For the financial year ending 31 December 2022, SVB UK recorded a profit before tax of £88m. SVB UK's tangible equity is expected to be around £1.4bn. Final calculation of the gain arising from the acquisition will be provided in due course. The assets and liabilities of the parent companies of SVB UK are excluded from the transaction. The transaction completes immediately. The acquisition will be funded from existing resources.

Noel Quinn, HSBC Group CEO, said, "This acquisition makes excellent strategic sense for our business in the UK. It strengthens our commercial banking franchise and enhances our ability to serve innovative and fast-growing firms, including in the technology and life-science sectors, in the UK and internationally.

"We welcome SVB UK's customers to HSBC and look forward to helping them grow in the UK and around the world. SVB UK customers can continue to bank as usual, safe in the knowledge that their deposits are backed by the strength, safety and security of HSBC. We warmly welcome SVB UK colleagues to HSBC, we are excited to start working with them."


https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00087216S/

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Re: HSBC (HSBA)

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Postby Dod101 » March 13th, 2023, 8:19 am

idpickering wrote:
monabri wrote:A new acquisition....SVB UK . Price £1.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-economy/

Paywalled but I suspect there will be (plenty ) of reports on this elsewhere!!


And here it is;

HSBC acquires Silicon Valley Bank UK.

HSBC Holdings plc announces that its UK ring-fenced subsidiary, HSBC UK Bank plc, is acquiring Silicon Valley Bank UK Limited (SVB UK) for £1.

As at 10 March 2023, SVB UK had loans of around £5.5bn and deposits of around £6.7bn. For the financial year ending 31 December 2022, SVB UK recorded a profit before tax of £88m. SVB UK's tangible equity is expected to be around £1.4bn. Final calculation of the gain arising from the acquisition will be provided in due course. The assets and liabilities of the parent companies of SVB UK are excluded from the transaction. The transaction completes immediately. The acquisition will be funded from existing resources.

Noel Quinn, HSBC Group CEO, said, "This acquisition makes excellent strategic sense for our business in the UK. It strengthens our commercial banking franchise and enhances our ability to serve innovative and fast-growing firms, including in the technology and life-science sectors, in the UK and internationally.

"We welcome SVB UK's customers to HSBC and look forward to helping them grow in the UK and around the world. SVB UK customers can continue to bank as usual, safe in the knowledge that their deposits are backed by the strength, safety and security of HSBC. We warmly welcome SVB UK colleagues to HSBC, we are excited to start working with them."


https://www.investegate.co.uk/hsbc-hold ... 00087216S/

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Glad to see HSBC on the acquisition trail. 'The acquisition will be funded from existing sources.' That must be my account with HSBC.

If the numbers are correct, it sounds as if SVB UK ought to be self funding.

Dod

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Postby idpickering » March 20th, 2023, 4:31 am

Morning all. Holders of this share, me included, should brace themselves for the market opening in UK today. HSBC are down 6% on HK market as I type. Concerns re contagion in the banking sector are apparently the reason, according to the chat on Bloomberg TV that is.

For me, I'm thinking longer term than the current angst, and might just buy more HSBC soon.

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Postby idpickering » March 20th, 2023, 5:13 am

Further to my last, with regards to HSBC's weakness on the HK market as I type, there's mention on Bloomberg regarding concerns re HSBC's exposure to risky bonds. To be fair, other banks are down on the HK market too.

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Postby Dod101 » March 20th, 2023, 8:51 am

idpickering wrote:Further to my last, with regards to HSBC's weakness on the HK market as I type, there's mention on Bloomberg regarding concerns re HSBC's exposure to risky bonds. To be fair, other banks are down on the HK market too.

Ian.


In London currently down just under 6% but I am not reading much into that. The entire banking sector is in a state of flux at the moment.

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Postby idpickering » March 20th, 2023, 11:03 am

Dod101 wrote:
idpickering wrote:Further to my last, with regards to HSBC's weakness on the HK market as I type, there's mention on Bloomberg regarding concerns re HSBC's exposure to risky bonds. To be fair, other banks are down on the HK market too.

Ian.


In London currently down just under 6% but I am not reading much into that. The entire banking sector is in a state of flux at the moment.

Dod


Agreed Dod. Ta for your input. Tbh I’m more inclined to buy stocks like HSBC when there’s blood on the street so to speak.

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Postby monabri » March 20th, 2023, 6:58 pm

idpickering wrote:Morning all. Holders of this share, me included, should brace themselves for the market opening in UK today. HSBC are down 6% on HK market as I type. Concerns re contagion in the banking sector are apparently the reason, according to the chat on Bloomberg TV that is.

For me, I'm thinking longer term than the current angst, and might just buy more HSBC soon.

Ian.



Dropped a full 0.07% today! A turn around from this morning.


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