University Fees & Student Loans

[didds]

Instead of paying parents higher wages we do it through the welfare system instead, with things like child benefit, free child care, education, prescriptions, glasses and dentistry etc. Which at least reduces the risk of parents spending the money on themselves instead of their kids. Well, apart from the child benefit anyway.

ain't working though is it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnvj3j27nmro

[Lootman]

Instead of paying parents higher wages we do it through the welfare system instead, with things like child benefit, free child care, education, prescriptions, glasses and dentistry etc. Which at least reduces the risk of parents spending the money on themselves instead of their kids. Well, apart from the child benefit anyway.

ain't working though is it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnvj3j27nmro

"The average age of new mums and dads has increased to 33.8 for fathers and 30.9 for mothers."

Yeah my kids are 33, 35 and 38 and they only have one baby between them despite all being in long-term stable relationships.

I don't worry about that particularly except that personally I would not want to have to deal with teenagers in my 60s.

[MuddyBoots]

Instead of paying parents higher wages we do it through the welfare system instead, with things like child benefit, free child care, education, prescriptions, glasses and dentistry etc. Which at least reduces the risk of parents spending the money on themselves instead of their kids. Well, apart from the child benefit anyway.

ain't working though is it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnvj3j27nmro

No, but I can't remember ever hearing a UK politician saying they were trying to increase our birthrate. They want to provide something for the children we do have, but in my experience fertility hasn't been an issue especially at election time.

[didds]

No, but I can't remember ever hearing a UK politician saying they were trying to increase our birthrate. They want to provide something for the children we do have, but in my experience fertility hasn't been an issue especially at election time.

true! But is this just a case of our elected politicians as ever not seeing the bigger picture?

Or, maybe, understanding it, and without saying as such to the electorate who have allegedly spoken, quietly going about welcoming immigrants, in the knowledge that to publicly say so is a clear vote loser amongst a large % of the electorate ? I cant believe any government with any clue of what is happening hasn't a consideration as to where the proverbial all the tax revenue is going to come from in a dwindling native workforce. Unless its a "the next government can have this headache - I'm only here for five years possibly" of course!

[MuddyBoots]

I cant believe any government with any clue of what is happening hasn't a consideration as to where the proverbial all the tax revenue is going to come from in a dwindling native workforce. Unless its a "the next government can have this headache - I'm only here for five years possibly" of course!

Well, they're getting it by increasing the tax burden on us as % of GDP, which has gone back up to c. 35%. The population overall has held up and is still increasing despite the low birthrate, but it hasn't worked to bring in enough tax for all the state spending. Plus there's all the debt we've been piling up during this period of high immigration. And we apparently still have skills shortages - the arguments for our current strategy just don't look like they add up imo.

https://www.statista.com/chart/24330/uk ... -timeline/