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Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: March 4th, 2022, 1:29 pm
by JohnB
The Ultra Low Emission Zone which imposes a £15.50 daily charge on all but the newest diesels will be extended to all London Boroughs by the end of 2023. The proposed London Boundary charge and daily charge for all other than electric cars have been dropped though.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... sadiq-khan

Could be lots of diesels going cheap in the home counties then.

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 8:20 am
by pje16
The article has been amended
Tne charge (another clobber the motorist move) is £12.50, not £15.50 as originally stated

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 8:44 am
by Mike4
pje16 wrote:The article has been amended
Tne charge (another clobber the motorist move) is £12.50, not £15.50 as originally stated



Presumably this applies to all diesel vehicles not just cars?

If so it is little more than a money-raid on businesses as there are few types of business that don't need to use diesel vehicles, either to have supplies delivered to them or to deliver their product, and usually both.

I guess 'services' businesses like accountants and self-employed computer programmers will be only peripherally affected.

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 8:48 am
by Itsallaguess
Mike4 wrote:
..self-employed computer programmers will be only peripherally affected.


Are they getting charged depending on how far they move their mouse?

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 8:51 am
by monabri
Itsallaguess wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
..self-employed computer programmers will be only peripherally affected.


Are they getting charged depending on how far they move their mouse?

Cheers,

Itsallaguess


Only if the mouse is powered by diesel.

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 8:54 am
by Mike4
Itsallaguess wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
..self-employed computer programmers will be only peripherally affected.


Are they getting charged depending on how far they move their mouse?

Cheers,

Itsallaguess


If they bought the mouse on Amazon, what delivered it?

:)

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 8:59 am
by SalvorHardin
Itsallaguess wrote:Are they getting charged depending on how far they move their mouse?

In that case I recommend upgrading to a trackball mouse :D

I did about 10 years ago. Much easier to use, lowers the pressure on the wrist and they take up a lot less space (because you don't need to move the mouse).

https://www.kensington.com/en-gb/c/products/control/trackballs/?srt=relevance

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 9:21 am
by doolally
Mike4 wrote:
Itsallaguess wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
..self-employed computer programmers will be only peripherally affected.


Are they getting charged depending on how far they move their mouse?

Cheers,

Itsallaguess


If they bought the mouse on Amazon, what delivered it?

:)

A mouse midwife?
doolally

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 9:24 am
by Mike4
doolally wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
Itsallaguess wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
..self-employed computer programmers will be only peripherally affected.


Are they getting charged depending on how far they move their mouse?

Cheers,

Itsallaguess


If they bought the mouse on Amazon, what delivered it?

:)

A mouse midwife?
doolally


I'm not sure you've fully grasped the differences between deliver by diesel van, stork and midwife. You can get books about it, y'know!

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 9:26 am
by pje16
Mike4 wrote:
I'm not sure you've fully grasped the differences between deliver by diesel van, stork and midwife. You can get books about it, y'know!

Can we add Drone :lol:

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 9:31 am
by Mike4
pje16 wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
I'm not sure you've fully grasped the differences between deliver by diesel van, stork and midwife. You can get books about it, y'know!

Can we add Drone :lol:


Would that be an "Ultra Low Emission Drone"?

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 9:34 am
by Itsallaguess
Mike4 wrote:
Itsallaguess wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
..self-employed computer programmers will be only peripherally affected.


Are they getting charged depending on how far they move their mouse?


If they bought the mouse on Amazon, what delivered it?


Well that eventually brings us right back on topic, because it's the specific rodent-delivering bit of the diesel van that changes cash to mouse-shaped objects, you see...

Yes.

It's the Catalytic Converter....

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 1:20 pm
by DrFfybes
Mike4 wrote:
pje16 wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
I'm not sure you've fully grasped the differences between deliver by diesel van, stork and midwife. You can get books about it, y'know!

Can we add Drone :lol:


Would that be an "Ultra Low Emission Drone"?


Having seen the emissions from a Heron, I think Storks would also be banned from the ULEZ.

Of course the mouse could run on Cheese Diesel, but then it would probably not move much at all.[1]

Paul

I just googled for diesel cheese, and was rather surprised by the results it returned.

Re: Be wary driving a diesel inside the M25 from 2024

Posted: May 25th, 2022, 2:20 pm
by kiloran
DrFfybes wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
pje16 wrote:
Mike4 wrote:
I'm not sure you've fully grasped the differences between deliver by diesel van, stork and midwife. You can get books about it, y'know!

Can we add Drone :lol:


Would that be an "Ultra Low Emission Drone"?


Having seen the emissions from a Heron, I think Storks would also be banned from the ULEZ.

Of course the mouse could run on Cheese Diesel, but then it would probably not move much at all.[1]

Paul

I just googled for diesel cheese, and was rather surprised by the results it returned.

As surprised as an MP who googled for tractors?

--kiloran