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Re: Oil Price

Posted: November 19th, 2020, 1:21 pm
by dspp
Oil demand by geography, courtesy JohnKemp Reuters

(Reuters) - China, the global oil market’s lifeline this year, has stepped up purchases from exporters like Russia, the United States and Angola in recent weeks, while buyers elsewhere pare orders as coronavirus infections surge and fresh lockdowns are put in place.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/global-o ... KL4N2I43YC

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Looks to me as if economic downturns in Europe/Americas/etc all of comparable size.

- dspp

Re: Oil Price

Posted: November 25th, 2020, 11:26 am
by dspp
ROPEC updates, strains remain, shale still at req'd $40 floor for min survival

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2020/11/ru ... opec-break

- dspp

Re: Oil Price

Posted: February 5th, 2021, 9:38 am
by dspp
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:Looking positive for Brent price if we pull out of the pandemic in time for Northern hemisphere summer. If travel picks up significantly, $60 Brent should arrive and help fund energy transition at the European based super majors. Presently trading at $59.52, so it won't take too much pick up in oil use this summer to see a solid price upwards of $60. And a supply side deficit is next on the agenda medium term. When, not if. I think the outlook for European super major companies continues to look brighter.

RVF


Here is JohnKempReuters latest oil indicators chartbook

https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/c ... MARKET.pdf

eyeballing it I personally think slide 5 is at the more optimistic end of the forecasting spectrum (if that is you are hoping for high oil prices).

regards, dspp

Re: Oil Price

Posted: February 11th, 2021, 9:08 am
by Cyb3ria
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:Perhaps today's $60 Brent will bring more US shale back into production. With large parts of the world economy still effectively shutdown, including Rolls Royce engine factories, restarting travel and social activities may just underpin crude prices. The oil super majors need the revenue to meet their business reshaping costs.

Oil prices climb back to pre-pandemic levels


..../news/business-55975700

RVF


Yes, but wouldn't that take time to turn back on producing structure that has been turned off during the pandemic and also come at a cost. If demand increases, assuming the pandemic is effectively in retreat, then would that not translate to supply shortages and an increase in the price beyond pre-pandemic levels?

Re: Oil Price

Posted: February 17th, 2021, 10:27 am
by dspp
"Berkshire bought stock in .....Chevron Corp., bets that were granted confidential status and not revealed in a third-quarter regulatory filing, according to an updated document released Tuesday. The news of the investments sent the shares of those three companies up in after-market trading."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... lion-stake

Why any of these three were granted confidential status beats me. Anyway living proof of continued existence of dinosaurs.

regards, dspp

Re: Oil Price

Posted: February 23rd, 2021, 11:30 am
by dspp
Obituary: Yamani, the Saudi oil minister who brought the West to its knees
DUBAI (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia’s Sheikh Zaki Yamani, the embodiment of the ascent of Arab petroleum power and the face of the 1973 oil embargo that brought the West to its knees, has died.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saud ... SKBN2AN0LE
- dspp

Re: Oil Price

Posted: April 28th, 2021, 12:36 pm
by 88V8
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:$80 oil? Perhaps?

A last hurrah?
Opportunity to get out of big oil.
Or do we now think that big oil will morph into Big Renewable.

V8

Re: Oil Price

Posted: June 2nd, 2021, 1:19 pm
by Nimrod103
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:Looks like a future oil price cycle is underway as predicted here. Hovering a touch under $71 a barrel for Brent this morning. With large parts of the global economy still locked down, once global travel opens up and people start spending their pandemic savings on travel, cruises etc again, oil looks certain for $100 a barrel in the foreseeable future. Good for finances of the western oil majors who are transitioning away from oil. But at the same time, it hands a bigger slice of the market to Russia, the middle east, Brazil and other perhaps somewhat less reliable state controlled sources of supply.

RVF


Given the big rise in the £/$ exchange rate, why have fuel prices on UK forecourts risen so much?

Re: Oil Price

Posted: June 2nd, 2021, 8:37 pm
by Nimrod103
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:
Nimrod103 wrote:
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:Looks like a future oil price cycle is underway as predicted here. Hovering a touch under $71 a barrel for Brent this morning. With large parts of the global economy still locked down, once global travel opens up and people start spending their pandemic savings on travel, cruises etc again, oil looks certain for $100 a barrel in the foreseeable future. Good for finances of the western oil majors who are transitioning away from oil. But at the same time, it hands a bigger slice of the market to Russia, the middle east, Brazil and other perhaps somewhat less reliable state controlled sources of supply.

RVF


Given the big rise in the £/$ exchange rate, why have fuel prices on UK forecourts risen so much?

Because the gain in the forex is recently less than the increase in oil price? And it seems there are opportunistic increases. Locally where there are three supermarkets all within a 250m radius of each other, the price has gone up a few pence. Last week, I saw unleaded at 148p per litre and diesel at 150p at one filling station. Needless to say, I drove past it.

RVF


For those who do not have access to competing supermarket fuels, the Competition and Markets Authority have nothing to offer. Clear market failure.
Edit to add, my only local supermarket fuel station is shut till mid June for rebuilding, and all the other local stations have raised their prices accordingly. It worries me that as electric cars increase, and petrol/diesel cars decrease, gas stations will become rarer and competition will decrease, so prices will go up.

Re: Oil Price

Posted: June 2nd, 2021, 11:02 pm
by 88V8
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:.....there used to be several independent filling stations in and just out of town. There were no supermarkets selling fuel. Now, there's three supermarkets selling fuel in the town centre and all but one filling station in the suburbs all closed.

The retail profit on fuel is minimal. Maybe 2p/litre, so after credit card charges, no profit at all.
That's why they need to sell you sweets and doughnuts.

Supermarkets subsidising their fuel have driven independents out of business.
Now in some areas one can drive for miles and miles, no fuel.
Even worse if like me, you're looking for Super grade.

I never ever buy fuel from supermarkets.

V8

Re: Oil Price

Posted: June 24th, 2021, 12:52 pm
by 88V8
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:$100 per barrel Brent crude before this time next year? Looking highly likely I would say.

Yes, US stocks running down... it must be disillusioning for the greenification hypsters to realise that the world is still powered by oil.

Surprising that the SP of the majors has not really moved yet. If I were not so underwater I would almost think it worth going long.

V8

Re: Oil Price

Posted: June 24th, 2021, 2:10 pm
by TheMotorcycleBoy
Nimrod103 wrote:
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:Looks like a future oil price cycle is underway as predicted here. Hovering a touch under $71 a barrel for Brent this morning. With large parts of the global economy still locked down, once global travel opens up and people start spending their pandemic savings on travel, cruises etc again, oil looks certain for $100 a barrel in the foreseeable future. Good for finances of the western oil majors who are transitioning away from oil. But at the same time, it hands a bigger slice of the market to Russia, the middle east, Brazil and other perhaps somewhat less reliable state controlled sources of supply.

RVF


Given the big rise in the £/$ exchange rate, why have fuel prices on UK forecourts risen so much?

Stealth tax? To recover money spent by HM Govt in our recent lockdowns?

Re: Oil Price

Posted: June 25th, 2021, 10:33 am
by TheMotorcycleBoy
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:
TheMotorcycleBoy wrote:
Nimrod103 wrote:
Given the big rise in the £/$ exchange rate, why have fuel prices on UK forecourts risen so much?

Stealth tax? To recover money spent by HM Govt in our recent lockdowns?

I don't believe there have been any increases in vat or fuel duty recently? Though in any case, since both are levied as a %, then the tax take increases automatically as the price on the fourcourt rises.

RVF

That's true. It was just a guess really, re. Nimrod's earlier question.

Re: Oil Price

Posted: June 25th, 2021, 12:03 pm
by TheMotorcycleBoy
ReallyVeryFoolish wrote:
TheMotorcycleBoy wrote:
Nimrod103 wrote:
Given the big rise in the £/$ exchange rate, why have fuel prices on UK forecourts risen so much?

Stealth tax? To recover money spent by HM Govt in our recent lockdowns?

I don't believe there have been any increases in vat or fuel duty recently? Though in any case, since both are levied as a %, then the tax take increases automatically as the price on the fourcourt rises.

RVF

OK, perhaps the majors have increased their local prices, in order for them to recoup their losses?

Ultimately it boils down the "same thing", that is, other bodies (either corporations, or governments) passing their previous periods losses on as costs to the consumer.

Matt