Re: Discovery of Wills and Assets
Posted: May 15th, 2021, 12:24 pm
Does the executor not offer Will storage?
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CliffEdge wrote:Does the executor not offer Will storage?
GeoffF100 wrote:Getting the charity to hold a list of my investments would be a good idea, if they have a system set up for doing that.
9873210 wrote:GeoffF100 wrote:Getting the charity to hold a list of my investments would be a good idea, if they have a system set up for doing that.
The solicitor storing the will may also store one or more letters of instruction for the executor (or anybody else you want to contact from the here after.) These could include a list of current assets and be updated as needed. A solicitor might charge for this.
Any solicitor doing this will probably make use of the old fashioned technology of envelopes, rather than the new fangled technology of stapling.
GeoffF100 wrote:Would the Principal Registry of the Family Division automatically be searched?
What can do I do to ensure that the executor has an up to date list of my investments? I could set up a file listing the accounts on the cloud, with read access to anyone with the link. Perhaps that link could be included in my will? Is there a better method?
I have read that you must not attach other documents to your will. The issue is that the will must be exactly as it was when it was witnessed. If the will has staple holes in it, that can also cause problems in establishing that the will is complete, i.e. that an original attachment has not been removed.
I need to have lots of bank accounts to stay within the FSCS compensation limit.
I am sure that solicitors will file stuff away with a will. I am also sure that there will be a charge for storing updated documents every month. Storing a link to a folder in the cloud should be cheaper.
GeoffF100 wrote:With regard to savings accounts, I have just looked at HSBC. The best interest rate I could see was 0.25%. I can get 1.35% on a 5 year bond from Hodge Bank, but I would not want to exceed the compensation limit with them.
GeoffF100 wrote:Thank you very much for that CK. I was hoping that you would still be around.
With regard to savings accounts, I have just looked at HSBC. The best interest rate I could see was 0.25%. I can get 1.35% on a 5 year bond from Hodge Bank, but I would not want to exceed the compensation limit with them. If I am using 5 year bonds, I want a ladder with bonds maturing at regular intervals. I am gaining over 1% p.a. and that compounds up over time. The probate costs only happen once.
Certainty (AKA National Will Register) only costs £10 more to deposit a will. I was worried that the search fee might be a deterrent. My charity is Macmillan. Here are their accounts:
https://www.macmillan.org.uk/_images/20 ... 358602.pdf
I think I now have a good understanding of the issues. I could do worse than to talk to Macmillan. You would be right in saying that a few million is not going to make much difference to them, and would make a bigger difference to a smaller charity. The Macmillan people are highly paid, but the charity should have good governance. They may well hire one firm of solicitors as executor and another firm to chase them, but that should not bite deeply into my estate.
scrumpyjack wrote:Looking at Macmillan's accounts I see that out of £245m of expenditure £100m went on the cost of fundraising and on spending on campaigning and 'raising awareness'. A lot of the rest will have gone on overheads but still be classed as 'charitable activity spending'.
Clitheroekid wrote:... No doubt the not inconsiderable cost of a celebration lunch or cocktail party at the Savoy could be paid out of the ‘raising awareness’ fund!
scrumpyjack wrote:... Looking at Macmillan's accounts I see that out of £245m of expenditure £100m went on the cost of fundraising and on spending on campaigning and 'raising awareness'.
PinkDalek wrote:Off topic to the subject header but:Clitheroekid wrote:... No doubt the not inconsiderable cost of a celebration lunch or cocktail party at the Savoy could be paid out of the ‘raising awareness’ fund!
Did that, no doubt fully researched article, manage to establish how many of those events were free to attend?
Most in a similar vein that I’ve been to (not recently I hasten to add, as I got bored with them) cost a pretty penny to buy a ticket & involved all types of fund raising at the event itself & after.
Both the (smaller) charities with which I was involved relied on such events to cover their annual costs & more.
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dealtn wrote:GeoffF100 wrote:With regard to savings accounts, I have just looked at HSBC. The best interest rate I could see was 0.25%. I can get 1.35% on a 5 year bond from Hodge Bank, but I would not want to exceed the compensation limit with them.
I know nothing of that bank, or its products, but with all cases it is best to ensure you are covered by FSCS.
Some "bonds" mean you are an investor, not a depositer, and the ranking of your claim in the case of financial trouble, and the protections afforded will thus vary.
scrumpyjack wrote:Having been involved in a charity I am very sceptical of the large charities. Their attitude seems to be that it is worth spending 99p to raise £1 and an awful lot gets wasted in high overheads, salaries, London offices etc.
scrumpyjack wrote:Looking at Macmillan's accounts I see that out of £245m of expenditure £100m went on the cost of fundraising and on spending on campaigning and 'raising awareness'. A lot of the rest will have gone on overheads but still be classed as 'charitable activity spending'.
GeoffF100 wrote: The positive message here is that I should spend more time learning more about the charity, and consider alternatives.
Clitheroekid wrote:Finally, I would ask you to consider whether giving such large amounts to a `big charity' is making the best use of your estate. I have spent decades dealing with these charities, and many of them can only be described as rapacious. They have an arrangement whereby they check every Will that's admitted to probate, and as soon as they see their name they immediately contact the executor / solicitor to stake their claim.