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Alcohol-free Guinness

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Re: Alcohol-free Guinness

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Postby tsr2 » November 6th, 2020, 8:57 pm

kempiejon wrote:I've been trying the AF beers since Kaliber back in the 80s, mostly they are disappointing when comparing to real beer - I clearly miss the alcohol.

I find Ghost Ship 0.5 and Brew Dog Nanny State manage to retain the flavour without the alcohol. Sometimes I need the alcohol. When I just want a beer, but I don't need the alcohol, they will hit the spot.

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Re: Alcohol-free Guinness

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Postby Pipsmum » November 9th, 2020, 10:42 am

Imbiber wrote:
Have you tried Fermentis Safale LA-01 yeast? It is designed to produce beers < 0.5 ABV


No I haven't yet. I'll look at that, thank you. I've only used 04 and 05 of theirs so far. All tasted good, clean with a strong ferment.

Would be quite fun to do a side by side brew with the 01 and see what flavours come directly from the alcohol rather than the grains.

I just checked out the safalis site and it says this...

POINTS OF ATTENTION
As the beer at the end of fermentation will contain a lot of residual fermentable sugars, it is mandatory to pasteurize the beer after packaging (between 80 and 120 PU).
This yeast is not suitable for cropping and repitching.


So t'would be interesting to see on how on earth you'd stop it being sickly sweet. I wonder how the professionals deal with it.

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Re: Alcohol-free Guinness

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Postby ReformedCharacter » November 9th, 2020, 1:35 pm

Pipsmum wrote:
So t'would be interesting to see on how on earth you'd stop it being sickly sweet. I wonder how the professionals deal with it.

Here's a guide:

https://steadydrinker.com/articles/how- ... r-is-made/

I think that as a home-brewer the only technique that you could use would be to limit the amount of fermentable sugars in the wort.

TBH I wouldn't bother trying to make very low alcohol beer.

RC

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Re: Alcohol-free Guinness

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Postby GrandOiseau » November 9th, 2020, 4:29 pm

Ghost Ship is I believe brewed to a different method to many.

Brewer, Dan Gooderham explains how it’s made: "To make Ghost Ship 0.5%, we first brew a version of Ghost Ship 4.5% using East Anglian barley – locally-grown Rye Crystal malt and Cara malts. We dry-hop with Citra, Chinook and Cascade to create those bright, citrus aromas and flavours, and ferment as we would normally. The beer is then sent across to our reverse osmosis plant, where under pressure water and ethanol travel across membranes. The driver for the process is the concentration gradient of ethanol across the membranes. We add lots of water to carry the ethanol away leaving concentrated Ghost Ship, minus the alcohol. We then blend back some fresh water and carbon dioxide to create Ghost Ship 0.5%."

I've had it and it's a pretty good imitation. If you like Wheat Beer Franziskaner do a great low alcohol version.

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Re: Alcohol-free Guinness

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Postby Pipsmum » November 9th, 2020, 7:58 pm

ReformedCharacter wrote:TBH I wouldn't bother trying to make very low alcohol beer.


Inclined to agree with you, but too curious as to how to make it taste good not to try.

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Re: Alcohol-free Guinness

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Postby AleisterCrowley » November 11th, 2020, 10:40 am

On the original topic;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54901824
Guinness is recalling cans of its recently-launched non-alcoholic stout because of contamination fears.
The brewer described the recall as "precautionary", but said "microbiological contamination" might mean some products were unsafe.


I said no good would come of it, messing with the natural order etc etc

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Re: Alcohol-free Guinness

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Postby Stan » January 13th, 2021, 6:54 pm

Any Ale in an aluminium can is obviously a nonsense I don't care what anyone says.


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