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Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: September 23rd, 2018, 8:08 am
by Clariman
The Lemon Fool is, and will remain, free to use. However, there are costs and time involved in running the site. These costs are met by a combination of adverts and donations. You can make donations at any time by clicking on the Donations button at the top or clicking here app.php/donate

If you donate £20 or more, we treat that as a Voluntary Annual Subscription. In return you will no longer see site adverts for a period of 12 months. We introduced this in July 2017, so those of you who subscribed then have had 14 months ad-free. You may have noticed ads reappearing in the last few days. We do hope that you choose to renew your Voluntary Subscription by donating again.

Many thanks to all of you who support The Lemon Fool in this way.

Clariman and Stooz

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: September 25th, 2018, 9:17 am
by Clariman
Many thanks to those of you who have donated. One additional benefit that I forgot to mention, is that those who donate £20 or more also get an increased Private Message mailbox capacity of 100 messages - in addition to the removal of Ads.

Thanks

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: September 25th, 2018, 11:31 am
by floyd3592
Crikey, the combined knowledge of the posters in this community combined with the unbiased information and advice they give makes this £20 an infinitesimal sum compared to the massive potential benefits. Talk about value for money!

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: September 26th, 2018, 8:52 am
by chas49
NehaSharma wrote:I am new to this forum and just read this. So I want to ask you is that necessary to donate 20 Euro?


Welcome to the forum. As explained in the first post in this thread, donations are voluntary, but very welcome too! Just in case you want to remove ads, the donation amount to make would be £20 (20GBP)

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: December 14th, 2018, 3:29 am
by PinkDalek
bruncher wrote:Are donations only possible through paypal?


The payments would appear to be made via PayPal but you don't need a PayPal account, as you can Donate with a debit or credit card without setting one up.

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: August 8th, 2019, 12:20 am
by csearle
maximan wrote:I have also just renewed my voluntary subscription.
At £20 a year that works out at just over 5p a day. (even cheaper in a leap year :D )
If that is not the bargain of the year I'm a dutchman.
Thanks clairman and stooz.
Thanks. I agree.

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: January 2nd, 2020, 11:45 am
by Stan
Dear all,

I want to make a donation but I won’t use PayPal so can I pay by a less corporate non-foreign way please.

My preference is a cheque and before anyone laughs paying by cheque and cash must be preserved (as most informed people know) in this Country because if their drip drip efforts to faze out both succeed they will eventually charge us for spending our own money.

Regards

Stan.

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: January 2nd, 2020, 12:12 pm
by PinkDalek
Stan wrote:Dear all,

I want to make a donation but I won’t use PayPal so can I pay by a less corporate non-foreign way please. ...


Not sure if it helps in your quest but you don't have to create a PayPal account as such. The payments would appear to be made via PayPal but you can Donate with a debit or credit card without setting up an account.

As for sending a cheque or even cash, you could post it to the company's Registered Office address (see the footer and use https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/search/companies).

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: January 3rd, 2020, 6:13 pm
by stooz
Stan it would cost me as load to post the cheque to the bank and they then charge me to process it.

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: January 7th, 2020, 7:41 am
by stooz
I'm not discounting it just sharing information on the costs. If you want to send a cheque, that's more than generous of anyone and gratefully received.

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 4th, 2021, 10:14 am
by Meerkat
Just out of interest, is it possible to donate but still have the ads?

They're not all evil, and assume some of them targeted to our interests.

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 4th, 2021, 7:48 pm
by 88V8
Meerkat wrote:Just out of interest, is it possible to donate but still have the ads?... assume some of them targeted to our interests.

I have never ever bought anything on the strength of an internet ad. AFAIC, the whole internet is supported on the fallacy that internet advertising works.
Which is fine by me.

But thankyou for reminding me that I haven't donated for a while.

V8

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 4th, 2021, 10:01 pm
by gryffron
Meerkat wrote:Just out of interest, is it possible to donate but still have the ads?
They're not all evil, and assume some of them targeted to our interests.

Logout, donate, log back in. Of course you won't be credited, you will show as Anonymous donor in the banner at the top. But it still helps the site.

Gryff

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 25th, 2021, 9:14 pm
by brightncheerful
First time donor, just given, I wasn't offered any alternative to £30.00. Is that the norm or does Paypal keep the extra tenner?

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 25th, 2021, 9:28 pm
by gryffron
On the screen before paypal I can choose any amounts £20-£100 from the dropdown.
Gryff

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 25th, 2021, 9:46 pm
by Clariman
brightncheerful wrote:First time donor, just given, I wasn't offered any alternative to £30.00. Is that the norm or does Paypal keep the extra tenner?

Many thanks BnC. It defaults to £30 but you can change it via the drop-down. :)

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 26th, 2021, 9:55 am
by Clariman
brightncheerful wrote:There isn't a screen before the paypal or a drop-down.

I'm using Safari v13.0.4

The PayPal donation is just one screen. There is a little arrow to the right of the amount which opens up a list. There is one beside the currency box too so you can choose another currency.

I’m viewing it right now from Safari on my iPad.

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 26th, 2021, 12:08 pm
by brightncheerful
Ah ha. The drop down is on the THL page above the Donate button. Had last night I noticed that TLF might've received more or less.

(Just now i clicked the Donate button and it said security check so I clicked the browser back button.)

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: February 28th, 2021, 10:50 am
by Clariman
Moderator Message:
To summarise the above ...
Donations and ads are needed to pay for the upkeep and development of The Lemon Fool. Donations are very much appreciated, but they are completely voluntary. When a user chooses to donate, we switch off any advertisement displays for 12 months, as a thank you. We are well aware that ad-blockers can remove ads anyway, but that's not the point.

No user should need to justify whether they donate or not, but they can do so if they wish. However, they aren't really relevant to this announcement topic. We are happy to leave those posts here for a while, along with other day to day posts about payments made and received. However, in the next week or so we will tidy up this whole topic, to remove much of this stuff. In the meantime, I don't think there is any more to be said and we will remove any further off topic posts.

Re: Supporting The Lemon Fool - Donations (versus Adverts)

Posted: March 1st, 2021, 11:03 am
by Clariman
Moderator Message:
Following my announcement yesterday, I have now pruned this whole topic. A simple announcement had turned into 4 pages of discussion over the years, so was overdue a tidy up. I have left useful Q&A type posts.