MDW1954 wrote:If it helps, here's how this could have played out:
1) IDpickering posts link to trading statement on Company News boards, and briefly summarises it.
2) He (or anyone else, for that matter) then posts something on HYP pointing to that post, if they feel like it, and says something like: "These IMB results look OK for now, but for how long can IMB continue to strip out costs and rationalise its global brands? Should HYPers be nervous about continued dividend growth over the short to medium term term?" This post doesn't simply regurgitate the trading statement, but raises HYP-specific about it. Note the reference there to HYP-specific!
3) Everyone piles in for a discussion.
That would all have been fine. Nothing Gulliveresque about that, and perfectly straightforward.IanTHughes wrote:Change to:
1) IDpickering posts link to trading statement on HYP Practical board, and briefly summarises it.
2) ….
3) ….
and you have it in my view.
As I also said above, if the news item is not relevant to HYP Practical, the whole thread should be closed/moved, or otherwise moderated, as not suitable for discussion on HYP Practical at all, irrespective of any link to the Company News board or wherever. However, in my opinion, Trading Updates are a perfectly valid topic for HYP Practical, they should not be closed/moved and, if a thread/discussion is considered valid for HYP Practical, a direct link to the Trading Update news item itself should be allowed. I hope that is clearer?
Not all trading statement posts will attract comment and discussion. It is important, to avoid clogging up the HYP Practical board, that initial posts are posted on Company News, where other (non-HYPer) TLF users might also see them. Otherwise, we are mostly back to where were. It is quite permissible to post a brief announcement on HYP Practical saying that the details of the trading statement have been posted on Company News.
But what you are suggesting does not "avoid clogging up the HYP Practical board"! The post, linking to the Company News board has the same "clogging" effect. The only difference is that a reader of a HYP Practical board now has to go to the Company News board to find a link to a news item that he/she wishes to read in full! If the news item is relevant to HYP Practical, how is it "clogging" the board to allow a direct link to the news item in question, from the HYP Practical board, within a post that is allowed to remain?
MDW1954 wrote:Given that TLF is a broad church, and HYPing a minority sport within it, this exposes company news to the largest possible readership.
Posting solely on HYP Practical would not achieve this.
So, are the rules about company news items the same on any board or is it only HYP practical which is treated in this special way? Also, why the exceptions for news about dividends, corporate issues, results … etc... ? Do they not also need to be exposed to the largest possible readership?
I do understand the desire to present any news items to as broad an audience as possible but this could surely be achieved by simply copying the news item direct link to the Company News board. Why is it necessary to obliterate the direct link already in place on the HYP Practical board?
MDW1954 wrote:It's all about (2). Anything noteworthy would attract a (2). And I note that despite the heat in this thread, nobody has yet posted a (2) on HYP Practical, which rather supports my suspicion that there might not be a lot to say.
No, as it happens the Trading Update in question was not very noteworthy. But I hope you realise I was talking in general terms about the posting procedures currently in place, rather than this specific rather uninteresting news item
Look, I think I have clearly explained my thinking on this subject and if there is no change .. well … we shall just have to agree to disagree.
I will not further respond but once again I do thank you for listening
Ian