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Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 1st, 2021, 11:47 am
by 127tolmers
I wonder why the 29 October update says that the Coolabi deal has not completed for Chrysalis. It certainly did for Edge in July whose shareholders have had 70% of the proceeds paid out as dividends; only limited by Edge's distributable reserve position.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 1st, 2021, 2:36 pm
by wilwak9
The circular seems to imply that Edge sold their holding to a different investor to the one Chrysalis is selling to.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 2nd, 2021, 2:47 pm
by Kidman
The Chrysalis/Edge difference may be down to equity versus loans.
From memory a large part of the CYS holding was debt rather than equity and I think that got novated to the new owner of Coolabi. Hence the share part may have paid out but not the debt part.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 2nd, 2021, 5:36 pm
by wilwak9
Yes. Makes perfect sense.

I wonder what the repayment terms were on the loan

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 24th, 2021, 10:12 am
by yorkshirelad1
Payment (distribution) (10p/sh) arrived in my bank account this morning (24 Nov 2021). Fairly impressed with the speed and efficiency of the payment. Haven't seen any other notification (e.g. similar to e-mail when a dividend is paid), but not sure if there'll be a separate notification today but notification was in the letter dated 29 Oct 2021 (available from https://www.downing.co.uk/existing-investor/chrysalis-vct via a link at the bottom of that page)

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 24th, 2021, 10:56 am
by yorkshirelad1
yorkshirelad1 wrote:Payment (distribution) (10p/sh) arrived in my bank account this morning (24 Nov 2021). Fairly impressed with the speed and efficiency of the payment. Haven't seen any other notification (e.g. similar to e-mail when a dividend is paid), but not sure if there'll be a separate notification today but notification was in the letter dated 29 Oct 2021 (available from https://www.downing.co.uk/existing-investor/chrysalis-vct via a link at the bottom of that page)


I spoke too soon. Postie's just called and letter from Chrysalis / City Partnership (sadly, not e-mail, but heyho, and probably too complicated to stitch an e-mail together with all the bits involved). (I think I have removed my personal details, cut out, from the info below, but if anyone sees any of my personal identifiable details still on it or retrieveable from it, please let me know: I wanted to post the whole item for everyone's benefit, which necessitated including the document with my personal info having hopefully cut personal info out IYSWIM)

https://imgur.com/twYq8Sd

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Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 24th, 2021, 11:13 am
by wilwak9
Thanks for sharing the letter. Much appreciated.

Our shares are held in a Barclays nominee account so we don’t receive correspondence and no doubt it will take them a week to allocate the payment to us!

Let’s hope there’s a lot more to come once Coolabi completes.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 12:24 pm
by BusyBumbleBee
I received cheques in the post yesterday for some holdings but have not had notifications from A J Bell of monies received by them for other holdings.

Why so many holdings? Well, Chrysalis itself is a result of many mergers and I also bought a lot at bargain basement prices in the open market.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 12:30 pm
by wilwak9
Same here Busy

Nothing in to Barclays yet.

I’ve had a couple of ‘liquidations’ in the past on shares that had suspended listings and payments took far longer than they should to be allocated to accounts.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 1:07 pm
by scotia
Chrysalis held in certificated form - Cash in Bank account on Monday. That's a lot more convenient than the cheques from the Artemis liquidation.
But with Monday and Tuesday postal deliveries now past, there has been no accompanying postal communication

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 4:15 pm
by yorkshirelad1
scotia wrote:Chrysalis held in certificated form - Cash in Bank account on Monday. That's a lot more convenient than the cheques from the Artemis liquidation.
But with Monday and Tuesday postal deliveries now past, there has been no accompanying postal communication


The payment date on the 10p distribution was 24 Nov (yesterday, Wednesday) so you seem to have got the early bird :-) ?

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 25th, 2021, 4:40 pm
by scotia
yorkshirelad1 wrote:
scotia wrote:Chrysalis held in certificated form - Cash in Bank account on Monday. That's a lot more convenient than the cheques from the Artemis liquidation.
But with Monday and Tuesday postal deliveries now past, there has been no accompanying postal communication


The payment date on the 10p distribution was 24 Nov (yesterday, Wednesday) so you seem to have got the early bird :-) ?

Its old age! I should have said Wednesday for the receipt of the payment, and I should have said Wednesday and Thursday for the non-receipt of a postal notification. :oops:
So I'm now confident today is Thursday - thanks for the reminder. My only excuse is that there was a Pembroke div on Monday 22nd, the Chrysalis payment on the 24th, and there will be Amati and Maven 5 divs on Friday 26th. Clearly too much excitement in one week!

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 26th, 2021, 10:49 am
by scotia
Paperwork for the Chrysalis liquidation payment (of 24/11/21), the Amati Div (of 26/11/21) and the Maven 5 Div (of 26/11/21) all arrived in the post today - all from the City Partnership, and in 3 separate envelopes. Chrysalis payment in Bank account on 24/11/21, and the two VCT Divs in Bank account on 26/11/21.
I hope I have got the dates correct this time :)

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 26th, 2021, 11:01 am
by wilwak9
MIG5 and Chrysalis both held in Barclays nominee.

No money yet from either for me.

Maybe they receive the Chrysalis funds by cheque?

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: November 30th, 2021, 9:15 am
by wilwak9
All received at Barclays yesterday.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: January 14th, 2022, 2:15 pm
by wilwak9
All very quiet…… I keep hoping for some good news.

Coolabi is taking a long time to complete.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: January 24th, 2022, 12:17 pm
by yorkshirelad1
Liquidator's report 20 Jan 2022

Available from link at the bottom of the page:
https://www.downing.co.uk/existing-investor/chrysalis-vct

or direct to pdf

(I got my copy by e-mail update dated 24 Jan 2022)

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: January 24th, 2022, 4:06 pm
by wilwak9
Thank you.

Not too much joy although a few positives.

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: January 24th, 2022, 9:28 pm
by Shavtedagin
I think that reads ok. It looks like we have £5m in cash, so nearly another 20p return possible soon, hopefully. Fingers crossed for a full wind up and 50p plus by the summer!!

Re: Chrysalis VCT: liquidation

Posted: January 25th, 2022, 10:17 am
by Kidman
I received my hardcopy version in the post this morning.

I note the liquidators found about £250k less cash in the bank than claimed and Enthuse has been sold for £260k less than valuation so some shortfall on those two items.

It all sounds quite optimistic but with caveats such as "alternative exit plans may be sought, which could extend the time to completion" and "it is taking much longer than envisaged to complete".