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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby CliffEdge » July 5th, 2022, 10:05 pm

Is Boris Johnson a good prime minister?

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby pje16 » July 5th, 2022, 10:24 pm

nimnarb wrote:Can Houdini escape this time?

If he does he is a complete dreamer

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby 1nvest » July 5th, 2022, 10:42 pm

Even with just 60% of Tory MP's in support of BJ, that's still more support than if the entire Labour party supported SKS. 215 MP's vs 200 MP's or thereabouts.

The media frenzy attempt to oust him are getting down to the dregs, clutching at straws. I suspect he'll continue on, and perhaps do OK come the next GE when countering AS as leader of Labour.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby Leothebear » July 6th, 2022, 8:56 am

1nvest wrote:Even with just 60% of Tory MP's in support of BJ, that's still more support than if the entire Labour party supported SKS. 215 MP's vs 200 MP's or thereabouts.

The media frenzy attempt to oust him are getting down to the dregs, clutching at straws. I suspect he'll continue on, and perhaps do OK come the next GE when countering AS as leader of Labour.


Yeah and to celebrate there'll be a squadron of pigs flying by. He's toast.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby CliffEdge » July 6th, 2022, 9:01 am

1nvest wrote:Even with just 60% of Tory MP's in support of BJ, that's still more support than if the entire Labour party supported SKS. 215 MP's vs 200 MP's or thereabouts.

The media frenzy attempt to oust him are getting down to the dregs, clutching at straws. I suspect he'll continue on, and perhaps do OK come the next GE when countering AS as leader of Labour.

Boris will never leave the Tory party. (Until he does.) I don't think he's a good prime minister.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby dionaeamuscipula » July 6th, 2022, 9:43 am

CliffEdge wrote:Is Boris Johnson a good prime minister?


There are quite a number of people who know him well who say (and have said since before he was PM) that he is utterly unfit for high office.

Rory Stewart's piece on his weak association with the truth is worth a read.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby sg31 » July 6th, 2022, 10:28 am

The labour party are loving this, they must be hoping that Boris stays in charge until the next election as he is the gift that keeps on giving.

Boris is now nothing more than a laughing stock among most of the Conservatives I know. This is a rural area and most farming families are staunch Conservatives. Even they have got sick of the number of lies told by Boris and his cronies who cover for him. The party stinks now like it did in the days of the Hamiltons and Jonathan Aitken.

Get rid of Boris now and give his replacement time to get his feet under the table before the next election. Starmer is a grown up despite the attempts to blacken his name, if he once gets into power and gets rid of the loony left it may be a long time before he can be removed.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby pje16 » July 6th, 2022, 10:34 am

sg31 wrote:Starmer is a grown up despite the attempts to blacken his name

Is it telling that having a "grown up" trait is seem as an great attribute, what is this country becomimg :roll:

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby CliffEdge » July 6th, 2022, 10:37 am

pje16 wrote:
sg31 wrote:Starmer is a grown up despite the attempts to blacken his name

Is it telling that having a "grown up" trait is seem as an great attribute, what is this country becomimg :roll:

A basket case.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby UncleEbenezer » July 6th, 2022, 11:09 am

sg31 wrote:Get rid of Boris now and give his replacement time to get his feet under the table before the next election. Starmer is a grown up despite the attempts to blacken his name, if he once gets into power and gets rid of the loony left it may be a long time before he can be removed.

Starmer is a thoroughly depressing prospect.

Sadly, he appears the lesser of the two evils.

Put those together, and someone might be looking to a well-timed rebranding. Someone who knows you only have to fool some of the people some of the time, and is a past master of that.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby didds » July 6th, 2022, 11:39 am

UncleEbenezer wrote:Starmer is a thoroughly depressing prospect.

Sadly, he appears the lesser of the two evils.


only because the electorate seem incapable collectively of seeing past a two party system.

its not as if there are no other parties to vote for.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby pje16 » July 6th, 2022, 12:25 pm

Snorvey wrote:Nicola For PM! And her wee toady green party buddy for chancellor. Then youd see some real carnage

Rebuild Hadrian's Wall NOW
keep her well away from us down here :D

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby Leothebear » July 6th, 2022, 12:53 pm

She couldn't do much worse.

UK now proudly regaining it's "sick man of Europe" title.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby pje16 » July 6th, 2022, 1:05 pm

BoJo is getting hammered
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
How on earth can he stay on
perhaps he thinks it's a bad dream that he will wake up from

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby servodude » July 6th, 2022, 1:15 pm

pje16 wrote:BoJo is getting hammered
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
How on earth can he stay on
perhaps he thinks it's a bad dream that he will wake up from


How can he stay on?
In the immediate term... give Nadine Dorries two vodka cruisers and she'll stab anyone that goes near him.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby UncleEbenezer » July 6th, 2022, 1:33 pm

servodude wrote:
pje16 wrote:BoJo is getting hammered
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
How on earth can he stay on
perhaps he thinks it's a bad dream that he will wake up from


How can he stay on?
In the immediate term... give Nadine Dorries two vodka cruisers and she'll stab anyone that goes near him.


Wouldn't she fall flat on her face while trying to stab anyone in the back?

Some interesting moments. Sajid Javid's speech was good. And there was a most extraordinary interview with a toady trying to rival Dorries on the World at One just now.

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby didds » July 6th, 2022, 2:43 pm

Snorvey wrote:Nicola For PM! And her wee toady green party buddy for chancellor. Then youd see some real carnage




That's not my point though.

didds

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby pje16 » July 6th, 2022, 2:43 pm

That takes the total ministers and aides who have quit to 27.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby Itsallaguess » July 6th, 2022, 3:26 pm

Had to laugh at today's Daily Mash story -

'Boris and Carrie Johnson announce birth of new baby Jesus'

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/boris-and-carrie-johnson-announce-birth-of-new-baby-jesus-20220706222982

A Downing Street spokesman said: “We are delighted to confirm that Mrs Johnson conceived, gestated and birthed a baby overnight and that it is Jesus, returned again after his ascension to heaven two thousand years ago.

“As such, the prime minister will be taking a break from official duties for a few days to spend time with his wife and the divine Lord, as you would expect from such a committed family man.


Cheers,

Itsallaguess

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Re: Boris or no Boris

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Postby pje16 » July 6th, 2022, 3:30 pm

Very funny
love the title of the article below that one :lol:


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