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Postby kiloran » December 22nd, 2020, 10:30 am

That's the winter solstice consigned to history, the days are getting longer and spring is on the way.
Happy days!

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Postby bungeejumper » December 22nd, 2020, 10:41 am

And the weather carries on getting colder for another month or two, and the snow starts down south, and the twin joys of no-deal Brexit and no-jobs covid do their miserable worst. :(

But what the heck, my new season's chillies have already gone into the propagator, and the garlic is going out any time soon, and the sweet peas will be in their pots in a week or three, and at long last we might get a sniff of something better for 2021. Here's hoping.

BJ

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Postby stevensfo » December 22nd, 2020, 3:36 pm

kiloran wrote:That's the winter solstice consigned to history, the days are getting longer and spring is on the way.
Happy days!

--kiloran


Thanks very much! For some reason, I thought the solstice was about the 26th. I always feel better after the shortest day. That nice feeling that every day is a bit longer. I'm not a winter person and love putting the clocks forward in the spring so we have lovely sunny evenings.

Shouldn't we celebrate or something, druids, sacrifices, cavorting around fires at midnight etc?

Or maybe my pyjamas, slippers, mug of herbal tea and mp3 earphones would spoil the atmos? ;)

Steve

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Postby kiloran » December 22nd, 2020, 3:42 pm

stevensfo wrote:Shouldn't we celebrate or something, druids, sacrifices, cavorting around fires at midnight etc?

Steve

Burn a brexiteer (or remainer, you choose) at the stake?

--kiloran

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 22nd, 2020, 3:49 pm

Using London as the benchmark the day time increase on the 22nd December is 3 seconds. However, the mornings will continue to start slightly later until 30th December (iirc).

Tomorrow, however, and getting somewhat giddy, the increase in daylight time is a magnificent 10 seconds using today (the 22nd) as our benchmark.

Exciting times and now we are over the worst of it cause to celebrate. Certainly makes up for missing the conjunction last night as it was completely overcast here.

AiY

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Postby stevensfo » December 22nd, 2020, 4:02 pm

kiloran wrote:
stevensfo wrote:Shouldn't we celebrate or something, druids, sacrifices, cavorting around fires at midnight etc?

Steve

Burn a brexiteer (or remainer, you choose) at the stake?

--kiloran


Well, it's pretty impossible to burn a really rich and influential Brexiteer, since not many actually live in the UK. ;)

So maybe one of each? But who?


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Postby UncleEbenezer » December 22nd, 2020, 5:03 pm

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:Using London as the benchmark the day time increase on the 22nd December is 3 seconds. However, the mornings will continue to start slightly later until 30th December (iirc).

Tomorrow, however, and getting somewhat giddy, the increase in daylight time is a magnificent 10 seconds using today (the 22nd) as our benchmark.

Exciting times and now we are over the worst of it cause to celebrate. Certainly makes up for missing the conjunction last night as it was completely overcast here.

AiY


The evenings have been improving for a week and a half now. Modulo the weather, which has been very dull for much of that time.

Once we reach the new year and the darkest dawn, the improvement in the afternoons is becoming noticeable. I think Twelfth Night - and the dismantling of December's obscene tat - marks the beginning of real improvement in the season. Cold and wet are still likely, but at least daylight is returning.

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 22nd, 2020, 5:11 pm

UncleEbenezer wrote:
AsleepInYorkshire wrote:Using London as the benchmark the day time increase on the 22nd December is 3 seconds. However, the mornings will continue to start slightly later until 30th December (iirc).

Tomorrow, however, and getting somewhat giddy, the increase in daylight time is a magnificent 10 seconds using today (the 22nd) as our benchmark.

Exciting times and now we are over the worst of it cause to celebrate. Certainly makes up for missing the conjunction last night as it was completely overcast here.

AiY


The evenings have been improving for a week and a half now. Modulo the weather, which has been very dull for much of that time.

Once we reach the new year and the darkest dawn, the improvement in the afternoons is becoming noticeable. I think Twelfth Night - and the dismantling of December's obscene tat - marks the beginning of real improvement in the season. Cold and wet are still likely, but at least daylight is returning.

Would you care to discuss the removal of our Xmas tat with the ladies of AiY's home please. I can assure you diplomacy at any level will be of absolutely no use. I'll be struggling to get them to concede by the middle of January.

AiY

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Postby kiloran » December 22nd, 2020, 5:13 pm

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:Using London as the benchmark the day time increase on the 22nd December is 3 seconds.
AiY

Oh, you just don't know what you are missing! In central Scotland today, we got an extra 4 (that's right....FOUR!!!!) seconds. Thanks, Nicola :lol:

--kiloran

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 22nd, 2020, 5:18 pm

kiloran wrote:
AsleepInYorkshire wrote:Using London as the benchmark the day time increase on the 22nd December is 3 seconds.
AiY

Oh, you just don't know what you are missing! In central Scotland today, we got an extra 4 (that's right....FOUR!!!!) seconds. Thanks, Nicola :lol:

--kiloran

Four ... be gads :shock:

Who's Nicola?

AiY

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Postby scotia » December 22nd, 2020, 6:06 pm

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:
kiloran wrote:
AsleepInYorkshire wrote:Using London as the benchmark the day time increase on the 22nd December is 3 seconds.
AiY

Oh, you just don't know what you are missing! In central Scotland today, we got an extra 4 (that's right....FOUR!!!!) seconds. Thanks, Nicola :lol:

--kiloran

Four ... be gads :shock:

Who's Nicola?

AiY

Fortunately the moderator also doesn't know, or we would be off to the dungeons of Polite Discussions. :)

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Postby Mike4 » December 22nd, 2020, 6:38 pm

For the last decade or so I've had a few texts on 21st Dec wishing me "Happy Solstice".

Being a grumpy ol' bar steward this expression rather grates with me as Winter Solstice is not a happy time. OTOH it seems churlish not to send back a few greetings to my friends who lean towards the Pagan rather than the Christian. What greeting to acknowledge the Winter Solstice would be more appropriate or suitable than "Happy Solstice"? Any ideas?

Ok I know it's too late to be asking.....

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 22nd, 2020, 6:43 pm

Mike4 wrote:For the last decade or so I've had a few texts on 21st Dec wishing me "Happy Solstice".

Being a grumpy ol' bar steward this expression rather grates with me as Winter Solstice is not a happy time. OTOH it seems churlish not to send back a few greetings to my friends who lean towards the Pagan rather than the Christian. What greeting to acknowledge the Winter Solstice would be more appropriate or suitable than "Happy Solstice"? Any ideas?

Ok I know it's too late to be asking.....

Merry Christmas? ;)

AiY

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Postby Mike4 » December 22nd, 2020, 6:59 pm

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:
Mike4 wrote:For the last decade or so I've had a few texts on 21st Dec wishing me "Happy Solstice".

Being a grumpy ol' bar steward this expression rather grates with me as Winter Solstice is not a happy time. OTOH it seems churlish not to send back a few greetings to my friends who lean towards the Pagan rather than the Christian. What greeting to acknowledge the Winter Solstice would be more appropriate or suitable than "Happy Solstice"? Any ideas?

Ok I know it's too late to be asking.....

Merry Christmas? ;)

AiY


None of us does "Christmas".

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Postby gryffron » December 22nd, 2020, 7:03 pm

Mike4 wrote:What greeting to acknowledge the Winter Solstice would be more appropriate or suitable than "Happy Solstice"? Any ideas?

Happy Yuletide. A festival which lasts 12 days so you're not too late yet (yes, the Christians pinched that bit too)

Gryff

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Postby AleisterCrowley » December 22nd, 2020, 7:09 pm

This site is rather good (set to your location first)
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/reading

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 22nd, 2020, 8:18 pm

Mike4 wrote:
AsleepInYorkshire wrote:
Mike4 wrote:For the last decade or so I've had a few texts on 21st Dec wishing me "Happy Solstice".

Being a grumpy ol' bar steward this expression rather grates with me as Winter Solstice is not a happy time. OTOH it seems churlish not to send back a few greetings to my friends who lean towards the Pagan rather than the Christian. What greeting to acknowledge the Winter Solstice would be more appropriate or suitable than "Happy Solstice"? Any ideas?

Ok I know it's too late to be asking.....

Merry Christmas? ;)

AiY


None of us does "Christmas".

Sorry I was under the impression Christmas was more pagan than Christian.

And I should note Santa Claus' red suit is actually a spin off from a Coca-Cola poster/ad. Before which he was green.

AiY

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Postby mc2fool » December 22nd, 2020, 10:02 pm

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:And I should note Santa Claus' red suit is actually a spin off from a Coca-Cola poster/ad. Before which he was green.

"Images of Santa Claus were further popularized through Haddon Sundblom's depiction of him for The Coca-Cola Company's Christmas advertising in the 1930s.[8][41] The popularity of the image spawned urban legends that Santa Claus was invented by The Coca-Cola Company or that Santa wears red and white because they are the colors used to promote the Coca-Cola brand.[42] Coca-Cola's competitor Pepsi-Cola used similar Santa Claus paintings in its advertisements in the 1940s and 1950s. Historically, Coca-Cola was not the first soft drink company to utilize the modern image of Santa Claus in its advertising—White Rock Beverages had already used a red and white Santa to sell mineral water in 1915 and then in advertisements for its ginger ale in 1923.[43][44][45] Earlier still, Santa Claus had appeared dressed in red and white and essentially in his current form on several covers of Puck magazine in the first few years of the 20th century." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Santa1902PuckCover.jpg

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » December 22nd, 2020, 10:15 pm

mc2fool wrote:
AsleepInYorkshire wrote:And I should note Santa Claus' red suit is actually a spin off from a Coca-Cola poster/ad. Before which he was green.

"Images of Santa Claus were further popularized through Haddon Sundblom's depiction of him for The Coca-Cola Company's Christmas advertising in the 1930s.[8][41] The popularity of the image spawned urban legends that Santa Claus was invented by The Coca-Cola Company or that Santa wears red and white because they are the colors used to promote the Coca-Cola brand.[42] Coca-Cola's competitor Pepsi-Cola used similar Santa Claus paintings in its advertisements in the 1940s and 1950s. Historically, Coca-Cola was not the first soft drink company to utilize the modern image of Santa Claus in its advertising—White Rock Beverages had already used a red and white Santa to sell mineral water in 1915 and then in advertisements for its ginger ale in 1923.[43][44][45] Earlier still, Santa Claus had appeared dressed in red and white and essentially in his current form on several covers of Puck magazine in the first few years of the 20th century." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Santa1902PuckCover.jpg

I stand corrected :oops:

Why is Santa red? You asked Google – here’s the answer

The definitive image of the red-robed one was, however, the product of hard-nosed commercialism. Coca-Cola wanted to boost its winter sales and hit on the idea of Santa being a coke drinker in a campaign tagged “Thirst Knows No Season”.

We need to establish the truth here. My ability to crawl out of a tight corner is at stake :lol:

AiY

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Postby mc2fool » December 22nd, 2020, 10:31 pm

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:Why is Santa red? You asked Google – here’s the answer

The definitive image of the red-robed one was, however, the product of hard-nosed commercialism. Coca-Cola wanted to boost its winter sales and hit on the idea of Santa being a coke drinker in a campaign tagged “Thirst Knows No Season”.

We need to establish the truth here. My ability to crawl out of a tight corner is at stake :lol:

Also from your link: :D

"The tradition of him wearing red began in the 1870s with the American cartoonist Thomas Nast, who introduced the red suit and cap, white fur lining and buckled black belt. Nast produced numerous drawings of Santa for Harper’s Weekly over a period of more than 20 years and, having first portrayed him in the Stars and Stripes (Nast was a passionate supporter of the union side in the American civil war) and in green, eventually achieved a representation of the Santa we know that owed much in spirit to “The Night Before Christmas”. His 1881 image of Santa quickly became something akin to an official portrait."


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