Donate to Remove ads

Got a credit card? use our Credit Card & Finance Calculators

Thanks to gpadsa,Steffers0,lansdown,Wasron,jfgw, for Donating to support the site

Lerwick/Lerick

A virtual pub for off topic, light hearted pub related banter and discussion. No trainers
Rhyd6
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 1267
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 10:01 pm
Has thanked: 3528 times
Been thanked: 1111 times

Lerwick/Lerick

#374880

Postby Rhyd6 » January 8th, 2021, 5:51 pm

Many moons ago I worked with a chap who hailed from this town and he always pronounced it Lerick but I noticed today on the BBC weather forecast that the weatherperson (getting the hang of this gender thing ;) ) pronounced it Lerwick. Anyone any insights into the correct pronounciation?

R6

kiloran
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 4112
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 9:24 am
Has thanked: 3263 times
Been thanked: 2857 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#374885

Postby kiloran » January 8th, 2021, 5:58 pm

I'm in central scotland and I've never heard it pronounced Lerick. Perhaps I've lived a sheltered life.

Norwegian pronunciation?

--kiloran

swill453
Lemon Half
Posts: 7992
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 6:11 pm
Has thanked: 995 times
Been thanked: 3662 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#374886

Postby swill453 » January 8th, 2021, 5:59 pm

I think it's a bit like Shrewsbury, and also Gullane in East Lothian - even the locals pronounce it multiple ways, there's no right answer.

Scott.

AleisterCrowley
Lemon Half
Posts: 6385
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 11:35 am
Has thanked: 1882 times
Been thanked: 2026 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#374890

Postby AleisterCrowley » January 8th, 2021, 6:10 pm

swill453 wrote:I think it's a bit like Shrewsbury,...

Oh, don't get me started ! :)

Anyway, none of the outsiders get Burwarton and Diddlebury right

Nimrod103
Lemon Half
Posts: 6652
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 6:10 pm
Has thanked: 1004 times
Been thanked: 2343 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#374902

Postby Nimrod103 » January 8th, 2021, 6:26 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:
swill453 wrote:I think it's a bit like Shrewsbury,...

Oh, don't get me started ! :)

Anyway, none of the outsiders get Burwarton and Diddlebury right


Nor Wrotham, Meopham, Ightham and Trottiscliffe (so it even happens in Kent).

Clariman
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 3271
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 12:17 am
Has thanked: 3087 times
Been thanked: 1559 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#374920

Postby Clariman » January 8th, 2021, 6:43 pm

The locals (Shetlanders) pronounce it Lerrick. Folk in Central Scotland would normally pronounce it Lerwick.

EverybodyKnows
2 Lemon pips
Posts: 118
Joined: February 11th, 2018, 6:03 pm
Has thanked: 286 times
Been thanked: 67 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#374951

Postby EverybodyKnows » January 8th, 2021, 7:47 pm

We have many....

Milngavie (mulgai)
Garioch (Geerie)....

AsleepInYorkshire
Lemon Half
Posts: 7383
Joined: February 7th, 2017, 9:36 pm
Has thanked: 10514 times
Been thanked: 4659 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#374953

Postby AsleepInYorkshire » January 8th, 2021, 8:09 pm

Rhyd6 wrote:Many moons ago I worked with a chap who hailed from this town and he always pronounced it Lerick but I noticed today on the BBC weather forecast that the weatherperson (getting the hang of this gender thing ;) ) pronounced it Lerwick. Anyone any insights into the correct pronounciation?

R6

Was the weather person blonde with very very big brown eyes :lol:

The correct pronounciation is pronunciation :oops:

I know, I know ... my coats on and the dogs are coming with me

Bydda i'n cael fy nghôt ac yn siarad â'r fenyw dywydd :)

AiY

Rhyd6
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 1267
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 10:01 pm
Has thanked: 3528 times
Been thanked: 1111 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#374985

Postby Rhyd6 » January 8th, 2021, 10:34 pm

AIY, judging from the forecast you'd be better with your wellies and mac. Not sure which weather woman it was, I have a soft spot for Tomas myself!
Nos da.

R6

marronier
Lemon Slice
Posts: 282
Joined: November 7th, 2016, 8:31 am
Has thanked: 11 times
Been thanked: 89 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375061

Postby marronier » January 9th, 2021, 10:52 am

Why not ask someone from Berwick upon Tweed.

redsturgeon
Lemon Half
Posts: 8981
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 9:06 am
Has thanked: 1330 times
Been thanked: 3712 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375074

Postby redsturgeon » January 9th, 2021, 11:27 am

marronier wrote:Why not ask someone from Berwick upon Tweed.


Or Warwick

John

swill453
Lemon Half
Posts: 7992
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 6:11 pm
Has thanked: 995 times
Been thanked: 3662 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375078

Postby swill453 » January 9th, 2021, 11:30 am

redsturgeon wrote:
marronier wrote:Why not ask someone from Berwick upon Tweed.

Or Warwick

I don't think they'd know, to be honest.

Scott.

bionichamster
Lemon Slice
Posts: 406
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 10:52 pm
Has thanked: 242 times
Been thanked: 65 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375092

Postby bionichamster » January 9th, 2021, 11:56 am

redsturgeon wrote:
marronier wrote:Why not ask someone from Berwick upon Tweed.


Or Warwick

John


Or Wick......? :?

Dod101
The full Lemon
Posts: 16629
Joined: October 10th, 2017, 11:33 am
Has thanked: 4343 times
Been thanked: 7536 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375108

Postby Dod101 » January 9th, 2021, 12:16 pm

Interesting that. Berwick I know, but Lerick? I have never been to Shetland but from the little I have heard natives speak, they have a very different accent. Is it just that or is it the Berwick syndrome?

I remember being corrected the one and only time I have been to Leominster.

I can confirm that the rule does not apply to Wick. The locals have got a long sound for the 'i' which makes Wick sound to my ears like Weak, as in weather.

Dod

AleisterCrowley
Lemon Half
Posts: 6385
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 11:35 am
Has thanked: 1882 times
Been thanked: 2026 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375113

Postby AleisterCrowley » January 9th, 2021, 12:22 pm

Ah Lemmster, land of my fathers (my grandfather's parish was near Leominster)

Clariman
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 3271
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 12:17 am
Has thanked: 3087 times
Been thanked: 1559 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375114

Postby Clariman » January 9th, 2021, 12:23 pm

Shetland has a very distinct accent as does Birmingham, Glasgow, Essex etc. As I said before a native would pronounce it with a short E and without the W sound.

Culturally and accent-wise Shetland is very distinct from central belt Scotland, while sharing things in common too.

swill453
Lemon Half
Posts: 7992
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 6:11 pm
Has thanked: 995 times
Been thanked: 3662 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375117

Postby swill453 » January 9th, 2021, 12:28 pm

Clariman wrote:Shetland has a very distinct accent as does Birmingham, Glasgow, Essex etc. As I said before a native would pronounce it with a short E and without the W sound.

And as I said, it's pronounced in multiple ways by the locals, including with the 'w' sound, so there's no single answer.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ALe ... ounciation "In Shetland, and even within Lerwick, there is no accepted right or wrong pronunciation, unlike the examples you give above. The most common pronunciations are variations on Lerwick, Lerick, Lerook and Larook, depending on the local dialect of the speaker. Lerick is probably the most common pronounciation by 'Lerwigians'"

Scott.

MaraMan
Lemon Slice
Posts: 497
Joined: November 22nd, 2016, 3:30 pm
Has thanked: 219 times
Been thanked: 228 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375133

Postby MaraMan » January 9th, 2021, 1:15 pm

Even local villages in Sussex like; Cuckfield, Slaugham, Hortsted Keynes and Ansty are almost always pronounced wrongly by those not in the know. I guess it happens everywhere. It's one of many reasons why the UK is such an interesting place.

MM

Clariman
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 3271
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 12:17 am
Has thanked: 3087 times
Been thanked: 1559 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375153

Postby Clariman » January 9th, 2021, 1:42 pm

swill453 wrote:
Clariman wrote:Shetland has a very distinct accent as does Birmingham, Glasgow, Essex etc. As I said before a native would pronounce it with a short E and without the W sound.

And as I said, it's pronounced in multiple ways by the locals, including with the 'w' sound, so there's no single answer.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ALe ... ounciation "In Shetland, and even within Lerwick, there is no accepted right or wrong pronunciation, unlike the examples you give above. The most common pronunciations are variations on Lerwick, Lerick, Lerook and Larook, depending on the local dialect of the speaker. Lerick is probably the most common pronounciation by 'Lerwigians'"

Scott.

OK I stand corrected. I thought all Shetlanders pronounced it that way. :)

redsturgeon
Lemon Half
Posts: 8981
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 9:06 am
Has thanked: 1330 times
Been thanked: 3712 times

Re: Lerwick/Lerick

#375158

Postby redsturgeon » January 9th, 2021, 1:55 pm

This is just part of a wider process whereby speakers who use a word a lot over time will possibly tend to shorten the vowel sounds so War-wick becomes "warrik" and Leo-minster becomes "lemnster" and Wor-ces-ter becomes "wuster".

I have noticed this year a move from Co-vid with a long "o" to "covvid" with a short "o", just makes it quicker and easier to say I suppose.

John


Return to “Beerpig's Snug”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests