Hallucigenia wrote:AF62 wrote:Not for these goods. It was *very* clear for months prior that from the first day that full customs declarations would be required for imports of alcohol from the EU.
As such declarations were already required for import of wine from outside the EU prior to Brexit, using the same systems and the same forms that they would need to use, it would have been trivially simple for the business owner to have investigated what was already required and which import agents could provide the service for them.
Instead they waited until the 16 January and decided to have a go themselves despite not knowing what they were doing. And then moaned.
Do you think a specialist wine importer has no experience of importing from Australia, the US, Chile?
He's been doing this stuff since you were in short trousers, as you will see from other threads he had been preparing well before the date (thanks to all the false dawns), but as a small business you are at the mercy of eg logistics companies just throwing in the towel at the complexity of it all.
Well clearly he doesn't have such experience when his Tweets express surprise that
"A CHIEF declaration (C88) has up to 65 boxes to complete." - actually it is 54 boxes, but then I would expect every importer should know that (or at least employ an import agent who know that).
And then goes on further with
"Some of these are very simple like excise number and parties involved on the import. So basic stuff. Others however are very vague codes." yes
"Vague codes" - that really sounds like someone who knows what they are doing.
Hallucigenia wrote:Might I ask what experience you have of importing from outside the EU?
Back in the 1980's (when this wine importer was in short trousers) I was dealing with the import of wine, beer, and spirits from all over the world, including Europe and since that was before the UK was in the Single Market then a C88 was required for all such imports. Next question.