The Lemon Fool

bungeejumper wrote:The obligatory "other" for me. I like pop music just fine, as long as it isn't vacuous, over-produced, violent or generally synthetic. So not at all, then.

Sixties teenager here. At that time, a definition of "pop music" might have covered the whole span between Val Doonican/Vera Lynn and Hendrix/Fleetwood Mac. Although my personal interest was in hard rock, which deserved a special exemption on the grounds of brain impairment.

Apart from occasional sorties to dance venues, mainly for dating purposes, "pop music" died for me the day that the synthesizer took over. And I refocused on jazz, which is the thinking man's entertainment, if only because it's so bloody wilful and devious. It's funny that all the advanced synth technology in the world hasn't managed to reproduce the soul or the subtlety of a saxophone.

Harrumph.

BJ

servodude wrote:

bungeejumper wrote:The obligatory "other" for me. I like pop music just fine, as long as it isn't vacuous, over-produced, violent or generally synthetic. So not at all, then.

Sixties teenager here. At that time, a definition of "pop music" might have covered the whole span between Val Doonican/Vera Lynn and Hendrix/Fleetwood Mac. Although my personal interest was in hard rock, which deserved a special exemption on the grounds of brain impairment.

Apart from occasional sorties to dance venues, mainly for dating purposes, "pop music" died for me the day that the synthesizer took over. And I refocused on jazz, which is the thinking man's entertainment, if only because it's so bloody wilful and devious. It's funny that all the advanced synth technology in the world hasn't managed to reproduce the soul or the subtlety of a saxophone.

Harrumph.

BJ

Underworld...80s then for your vote?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underworld_(band)




I think John Chowning might disagree - we used to study his FM synthesis schema for reed instruments
and if you'd want "advanced synth tech" with soul have a look for "brilliant yes that would be" by underworld... it uses a mad recent granular synth that sounds amazing and hits me right in the feels (but then I always loved programming for foff in c-sound)

-sd

staffordian wrote:Now, there is so much scope for hearing such a wide range of music, I can't believe that a decade such as the noughties or 2010s will be marked by a limitied range of iconic "singles" as used to be the case.

Or am I just getting old?

monabri wrote:

servodude wrote:

bungeejumper wrote:The obligatory "other" for me. I like pop music just fine, as long as it isn't vacuous, over-produced, violent or generally synthetic. So not at all, then.

Sixties teenager here. At that time, a definition of "pop music" might have covered the whole span between Val Doonican/Vera Lynn and Hendrix/Fleetwood Mac. Although my personal interest was in hard rock, which deserved a special exemption on the grounds of brain impairment.

Apart from occasional sorties to dance venues, mainly for dating purposes, "pop music" died for me the day that the synthesizer took over. And I refocused on jazz, which is the thinking man's entertainment, if only because it's so bloody wilful and devious. It's funny that all the advanced synth technology in the world hasn't managed to reproduce the soul or the subtlety of a saxophone.

Harrumph.

BJ

Underworld...80s then for your vote?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underworld_(band)




I think John Chowning might disagree - we used to study his FM synthesis schema for reed instruments
and if you'd want "advanced synth tech" with soul have a look for "brilliant yes that would be" by underworld... it uses a mad recent granular synth that sounds amazing and hits me right in the feels (but then I always loved programming for foff in c-sound)

-sd

pje16 wrote:Will they be be playing songs from today in 20 to 30 years time , a few perhaps but not many

staffordian wrote:When the only sources of music were Top of the Pops, the Light Programme, Radio Luxembourg or a pirate station, then later Radio One, everyone's focus was on a relatively narrow range of songs.

Mike4 wrote:

staffordian wrote:When the only sources of music were Top of the Pops, the Light Programme, Radio Luxembourg or a pirate station, then later Radio One, everyone's focus was on a relatively narrow range of songs.

How can you possibly say that??!!!

Did you never go into a record shop where you could listen to and buy astounding new music by bands you'd never hear on the radio. Musicians and bands like Wishbone Ash, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Humble Pie, Yes, King Crimson, Cream and the list goes on....

And then there was the college/uni gig circuit.... We regularly saw bands like Stackridge, Camel, Stiff Little Fingers and loads more I can't think of for now.

None of these would you ever hear on Radio 1 (except The Beatles perhaps). In fact when I was at skool very few people listened to R1 as it was considered pretty naff and a general demonstration of a lack of musical sophistry.

Mike4 wrote:

staffordian wrote:When the only sources of music were Top of the Pops, the Light Programme, Radio Luxembourg or a pirate station, then later Radio One, everyone's focus was on a relatively narrow range of songs.

How can you possibly say that??!!!

Did you never go into a record shop where you could listen to and buy astounding new music by bands you'd never hear on the radio. Musicians and bands like Wishbone Ash, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Humble Pie, Yes, King Crimson, Cream and the list goes on....

And then there was the college/uni gig circuit.... We regularly saw bands like Stackridge, Camel, Stiff Little Fingers and loads more I can't think of for now.

None of these would you ever hear on Radio 1 (except The Beatles perhaps). In fact when I was at skool very few people listened to R1 as it was considered pretty naff and a general demonstration of a lack of musical sophistry.

redsturgeon wrote:

Mike4 wrote:

staffordian wrote:When the only sources of music were Top of the Pops, the Light Programme, Radio Luxembourg or a pirate station, then later Radio One, everyone's focus was on a relatively narrow range of songs.

How can you possibly say that??!!!

Did you never go into a record shop where you could listen to and buy astounding new music by bands you'd never hear on the radio. Musicians and bands like Wishbone Ash, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Humble Pie, Yes, King Crimson, Cream and the list goes on....

And then there was the college/uni gig circuit.... We regularly saw bands like Stackridge, Camel, Stiff Little Fingers and loads more I can't think of for now.

None of these would you ever hear on Radio 1 (except The Beatles perhaps). In fact when I was at skool very few people listened to R1 as it was considered pretty naff and a general demonstration of a lack of musical sophistry.

I pretty much agree with everything you say there Mike...except "sophistry"..."sophistication" perhaps.

And I would add Soft Machine to the list...B'Ham students Union 1974...wow!

John

servodude wrote:
I think John Chowning might disagree - we used to study his FM synthesis schema for reed instruments
and if you'd want "advanced synth tech" with soul have a look for "brilliant yes that would be" by underworld... it uses a mad recent granular synth that sounds amazing and hits me right in the feels (but then I always loved programming for foff in c-sound)

-sd

Redmires wrote:Now there's a coincidence. I'm catching up with Johnnie Walker's 'Sounds of The 70's' as I type. What a decade But then I'm old enough to have been there at the time. Your teens are the most formative years so it's all down to when you were born. My parents thought the 60s & 70's music was rubbish and I feel the same for modern music*.

* anything after 1990

MrFoolish wrote:

Redmires wrote:Now there's a coincidence. I'm catching up with Johnnie Walker's 'Sounds of The 70's' as I type. What a decade But then I'm old enough to have been there at the time. Your teens are the most formative years so it's all down to when you were born. My parents thought the 60s & 70's music was rubbish and I feel the same for modern music*.

* anything after 1990

Today's music (since 2000) is the same 4 chords and autotuned vocals.