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2021 Dividends

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2021 Dividends

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Postby Dod101 » November 12th, 2021, 7:42 am

With the modest dividends received this morning , I am pleased to say that I have finally exceeded the dividend income for 2020. Everything else between now and the end of the year will be a bonus (and I think I might just get back to the income for 2019) I could do the calculation I guess because I think all those dividends have probably been declared, but we'll see.

Only very modest portfolio adjustments, mainly selling some Scottish Mortgage and buying Alliance so hardly chasing income. I never do that anyway.

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby Gerry557 » November 12th, 2021, 8:37 am

Dod.

Is that based on the same holdings or includes reinvested divis and or additional funds.

Im in the same position and expect to better last year but continually add to holdings throughout so isnt unusual. Although I marked some expected income purple rather than the usual green on the spreadsheet to identify covid cutters. I expect move improvement again next year (without adding) based on more of the cutters either restarting or upping from cuts.

"Annus horribilis" comes to mind. Hopefully the banks, REITs and income funds can get back to more like normal.

I added lots of LLOY as it was changing to quarterly divis and was due, from memory, x5 payouts only for it all to go Pete Tong. It a lot of income missed but it could have been so much worse. At least I have hope looking forward.

Im not using purple for next year everything will be back to green at whatever rate they choose to pay ......... unless events take over!

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby Dod101 » November 12th, 2021, 9:00 am

No I extract almost all of my dividends as I need them to live off. Actually I have just looked at my transactions for this year to date. I have added exactly £1512 from dividends which I can assure you is a tiny proportion of the total, such that they can be ignored. They just happened to be in an account that had spare cash.

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby bluedonkey » November 12th, 2021, 10:49 am

2019 was my peak year for dividends. Taking that as 100, 2020 was 74, and 2021 will be 91.

Dividends reinvested but no new capital added.

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby Arborbridge » November 12th, 2021, 11:10 am

My total invesment income to the end of October was 19% up on 2020. There's a good chance it will exceed 2019 by the end of the year. This is in terms of actual £. In pence per unit, the HYP is up 30%, ITs roughly on par and OEICS are down 5.6%

It all seems satisfactory for the moment - but dangers in the world remain, as ever.


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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby Dod101 » November 12th, 2021, 11:25 am

Arborbridge wrote:My total invesment income to the end of October was 19% up on 2020. There's a good chance it will exceed 2019 by the end of the year. This is in terms of actual £. In pence per unit, the HYP is up 30%, ITs roughly on par and OEICS are down 5.6%

It all seems satisfactory for the moment - but dangers in the world remain, as ever.


Arb.


Well done Arb. As I said mine will be pretty much at the 2019 level which was certainly my best ever year and I was down by 12.5% for last year. I am not a HYPer though and do not chase income. If I can get back to the 2019 level I will be content.

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby daveh » November 12th, 2021, 12:08 pm

bluedonkey wrote:2019 was my peak year for dividends. Taking that as 100, 2020 was 74, and 2021 will be 91.

Dividends reinvested but no new capital added.


My peak will be this year. Taking 2019 as 100, 2020 was 71 and this year will be >105. I'm still waiting for 3 ETFs to declare (payment will be end of December) but I think that is it for the year other than the ETFs. I'm reinvesting divis and a have put in a small amount of new capital (~1% of the portfolio value). HYPTUSS's dividend forecast is predicting I should be ahead again next year as well. This year has been pretty good both for income and capital of my Income portfolio.

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby moorfield » November 12th, 2021, 12:49 pm

My 2021 cashflow exceeded 2020 in August, but that following a substantial retinker of my portfolio earlier this year. As of today it is up 56% on 2020 and 21% on 2019, with more to come next month.

I am well ahead of my retirement target - extrapolating forward another 10 years, I am now aiming to see overall cashflow grow by ~7% pa through dividend increases cuts and reinvestment to keep on track.

Will be interesting to see how HYP1 has done too, not long now...

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby Bouleversee » November 14th, 2021, 8:27 pm

Dod101 wrote:With the modest dividends received this morning , I am pleased to say that I have finally exceeded the dividend income for 2020. Everything else between now and the end of the year will be a bonus (and I think I might just get back to the income for 2019) I could do the calculation I guess because I think all those dividends have probably been declared, but we'll see.

Only very modest portfolio adjustments, mainly selling some Scottish Mortgage and buying Alliance so hardly chasing income. I never do that anyway.

Dod


Do I take it that is calendar rather than tax year? I always do my calculations on the latter. 2019 was amazing for me too but I doubt if this tax year will match; several companies still not paying dividends. I really must get round to doing my tax return for20-21 which was a bit of disaster. Too soon to say how this year will pan out.

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby Dod101 » November 14th, 2021, 9:53 pm

Bouleversee wrote:
Dod101 wrote:With the modest dividends received this morning , I am pleased to say that I have finally exceeded the dividend income for 2020. Everything else between now and the end of the year will be a bonus (and I think I might just get back to the income for 2019) I could do the calculation I guess because I think all those dividends have probably been declared, but we'll see.

Only very modest portfolio adjustments, mainly selling some Scottish Mortgage and buying Alliance so hardly chasing income. I never do that anyway.

Dod


Do I take it that is calendar rather than tax year? I always do my calculations on the latter. 2019 was amazing for me too but I doubt if this tax year will match; several companies still not paying dividends. I really must get round to doing my tax return for20-21 which was a bit of disaster. Too soon to say how this year will pan out.


Yes that is the calendar year for me. I completed my tax return recently and owe HMRC a few hundred pounds. Most of these dividends are from tax free accounts. I had three cancelled dividends last year. The only really significant one was the HSBC cancellation. All three have now reinstated their dividends but at much more modest levels.

Dod

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby Bouleversee » November 14th, 2021, 10:27 pm

These days, mine are mostly in ISAs but I have always done my calculations and records on the fiscal year so I won't be able to make a comparison with yours. My guess is that I will still be way below 2019 so far as income is concerned. That may apply to the total return as well.

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Re: 2021 Dividends

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Postby kempiejon » November 15th, 2021, 9:23 am

I have some rough numbers, useful to me perhaps. I do not unitise, I add new money monthly and reinvest all dividends, my portfolio has never been at a greater value but I'm still a bit under my income from previous highs.
I measure rolling 12 months of income and at the end of 2019 it hit a record high, compared to that figure I'm just under 10% short today. My yield is towards the lower end of its averages too.


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