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How will clubs survive this?

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby dealtn » May 16th, 2020, 5:53 pm

Bundesliga started today with a schedule of 6 matches.

So much for all those it'll never happen, football is knackered, type of arguments.

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby Leothebear » May 18th, 2020, 12:12 pm

dealtn wrote:Bundesliga started today with a schedule of 6 matches.

So much for all those it'll never happen, football is knackered, type of arguments.


So how long can it continue in this spectatorless form?

Also .....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52579299

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby dealtn » May 18th, 2020, 1:16 pm

Leothebear wrote:
dealtn wrote:Bundesliga started today with a schedule of 6 matches.

So much for all those it'll never happen, football is knackered, type of arguments.


So how long can it continue in this spectatorless form?

Also .....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52579299


I can't see the authorities being comfortable allowing spectators for some time. presumably that will be next season at the earliest. So I think it will continue spectatorless until the end of the season.

It's a big loss of revenue, but percentage wise not so big. It will affect some clubs more than others, which is the case with relegation too, so not unprecedented for individual clubs. I suspect there will be some form of centralised payments to alleviate the worst of the financial hit, and that will be part of the current discussions.

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby dealtn » May 22nd, 2020, 11:01 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52680375

The uncomfortable realities lower down the pyramid.

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby Leothebear » May 24th, 2020, 9:02 am

Not at all unexpected.
Meanwhile the upper echelon of players remain on their superstar wages?

Something has to give.

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby Snorvey » May 24th, 2020, 10:31 am

I remember the first time I tried a VR headset (well, a cardboard headset with a mobile phone). The event was a Heavyweight boxing match on Sky, plus they had some football examples (Champions League iirc). I thought it had potential for sports, concerts and son on, but the tech wasn't there yet. Still it was cool looking around Wembley stadium from your seat and with headphones, it felt quite immersive. Until the mobile overheated and shut down.

Anyway, on a similar note....in a post virus world, is this the future....?

Danish Superliga club AGF Aarhus are using the technology to bring 10,000 fans to the side of their pitch, despite the season being played behind closed doors when it restarts on Thursday.

At their home game against Randers, AGF will install a giant screen along the side of the pitch, creating what they call "the world's first virtual grandstand" so fans can support the team for free via Zoom - there will even be a section for away fans.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52782033

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby dealtn » May 24th, 2020, 11:09 am

Leothebear wrote:Not at all unexpected.
Meanwhile the upper echelon of players remain on their superstar wages?

Something has to give.


You don't know what wages players are on and what makes them. There will be elements of performance related, so they will have dropped anyway.

As contracts expire, they will roll on to lower ones, its economics. That's how it "gives". In the same way that movie stars and musicians will be rewarded for the £ they bring in, so will sports stars. The quantum of that £ will be lower going forward.

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby Leothebear » May 25th, 2020, 11:37 am

Well it seems to me that football with no spectators will be worth a fraction of what the TV providers have paid in the past.

Deferring the wages of the players is simply delaying the pain.

Phil Hodgkinson's view:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52790371

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Re: How will clubs survive this?

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Postby dealtn » May 25th, 2020, 1:26 pm

Leothebear wrote:Well it seems to me that football with no spectators will be worth a fraction of what the TV providers have paid in the past.

Deferring the wages of the players is simply delaying the pain.

Phil Hodgkinson's view:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52790371


He talks a lot of sense.

It's not obvious what the TV will pay for games without spectators. They have already paid for games that haven't been played yet, and likely by the time new contracts are negotiated spectators will be back anyway.

In the interim TV companies are likely to be able to show a greater proportion of games, including the traditional Saturday 3pm slot, and those who would be attending, or in pubs, will likely be at home. Advertising rates for those kind of audiences might be higher than if "normal" football was taking place.

It will be a struggle for most clubs to operate in a manner that covers their costs and obligations going forward. A significant number weren't doing so pre-Covid.


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