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Germany V England...The Ladies

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby pje16 » August 2nd, 2022, 3:21 pm

I accept that point
I have put in well over 1000 hours helping a charity, I don't expect anything for it
a large number of honours are just given out too easily these days.
Don't get me started on actors :D

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby Arborbridge » August 2nd, 2022, 4:05 pm

pje16 wrote:
Arborbridge wrote:Handful of hours? You must be joking. Would anyone here really believe that a "handful of hours" is a valid assessment?
Arb.

Before the 10 hours they played at the Euro finals how many players had anyone except a die hard fan heard of
Yes of course they played before that, but were not in the public consciousness


And how many ordinary people who receieved honours were in the public consciousness? Many people would not have heard of a quarter of those honoured, until they had the award announced. That isn't a prerequisite for an honour. The lollipop lady would only be known to diehard fans too.

I think you have a dodgy case.

BTW, you keep undermining these achievers by thumping on about a number of hours played. That is absurd as you are writing off their training as not worth a light. It also is so transparently absurd that it exposes the weakbess of your own case.

Arb.

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby pje16 » August 2nd, 2022, 4:10 pm

Arborbridge wrote:I think you have a dodgy case.

Try comparing who has got them in the last 5 years or so with those who did 20 or so years ago - when it meant something

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby Arborbridge » August 2nd, 2022, 4:35 pm

pje16 wrote:
Arborbridge wrote:I think you have a dodgy case.

Try comparing who has got them in the last 5 years or so with those who did 20 or so years ago - when it meant something


Investors know a thing or two about hindsight bias ;)

This part of the discussion seems to have bored the rest into silence, so I suggest we wind up and agree to differ.

Arb.

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby pje16 » August 2nd, 2022, 4:40 pm

It did go off track- my fault
Done deal ;)

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby Itsallaguess » August 2nd, 2022, 5:01 pm

pje16 wrote:
Before the 10 hours they played at the Euro finals how many players had anyone except a die hard fan heard of


Well I'm as big a John McClane fan as the rest of them, but I'm not quite sure how relevant that all is to this particular discussion...

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby tjh290633 » August 3rd, 2022, 10:05 am

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby garfsuncle » August 3rd, 2022, 6:46 pm

simoan wrote:

... really, Stanway should have been sent off for two bookable offences in the first half for nasty mistimed tackles.


I was going to let this go, but having gone back to the thread, I don't think I can.

Stanway was booked in the first half for a mis-timed, but genuine attempt at a, tackle. She was a fraction of a second late; it was certainly not "nasty". Under the rules, that was never a booking. Fouls do not (or should not) automatically attract yellow cards, especially when they are not deliberate. Neither could the referee have used the excuse that Stanway was "out of control" - she wasn't. I saw a number of incidents of shirt-pulling and deliberate tripping by the Germans where free kicks were admittedly awarded, but the yellow card was not brandished. It should have been - the whole purpose of the yellow card is to prevent deliberate, or persistent, fouls.

If you believe that yellow cards should be handed out like confetti, then maybe that's the Tottenham viewpoint :D . I realise that the rules (or Laws) of football are drawn up by "bears of very little brain": cf the one for "denying a goal-scoring opportunity" inside the penalty area - red card plus penalty kick. What is a penalty kick if not a "goal-scoring opportunity"? And often a better one than the one denied! And don't get me started on the latest crazy off-side rule!

I haven't posted on this board for ages, apart from inviting entries to the Premier Fantasy Football League (and come on, simoan, not scared, are you?) and I'm still not sure that I understand the system. But I recognise a lot of names from TMF and send my best regards to all.

Alan

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby Itsallaguess » August 3rd, 2022, 6:55 pm

garfsuncle wrote:
But I recognise a lot of names from TMF and send my best regards to all.


What fun that TMF football board was in it's heyday...

The battles with Winker were legendary, riding that United wave as he did at the time.

If only his phone hadn't auto-corrected his Motley Fool account application...

I miss him enormously, and do wish he was still around...

:O)

Cheers,

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby pje16 » August 3rd, 2022, 7:28 pm

garfsuncle wrote:
simoan wrote:

... really, Stanway should have been sent off for two bookable offences in the first half for nasty mistimed tackles.


I was going to let this go, but having gone back to the thread, I don't think I can.

Stanway was booked in the first half for a mis-timed, but genuine attempt at a, tackle. She was a fraction of a second late; it was certainly not "nasty". Under the rules, that was never a booking. Fouls do not (or should not) automatically attract yellow cards, especially when they are not deliberate. Neither could the referee have used the excuse that Stanway was "out of control" - she wasn't. I saw a number of incidents of shirt-pulling and deliberate tripping by the Germans where free kicks were admittedly awarded, but the yellow card was not brandished. It should have been - the whole purpose of the yellow card is to prevent deliberate, or persistent, fouls.
Alan

Yes I spotted that and another England player was booked shortly after for another tackle, again not a foul
You know when the ref has got it wrong, it's when the whole crowd spots it as they must have done by sounding an ironic cheer when the first German got booked

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby Arborbridge » August 3rd, 2022, 7:32 pm

pje16 wrote:
garfsuncle wrote:
simoan wrote:

... really, Stanway should have been sent off for two bookable offences in the first half for nasty mistimed tackles.


I was going to let this go, but having gone back to the thread, I don't think I can.

Stanway was booked in the first half for a mis-timed, but genuine attempt at a, tackle. She was a fraction of a second late; it was certainly not "nasty". Under the rules, that was never a booking. Fouls do not (or should not) automatically attract yellow cards, especially when they are not deliberate. Neither could the referee have used the excuse that Stanway was "out of control" - she wasn't. I saw a number of incidents of shirt-pulling and deliberate tripping by the Germans where free kicks were admittedly awarded, but the yellow card was not brandished. It should have been - the whole purpose of the yellow card is to prevent deliberate, or persistent, fouls.
Alan

Yes I spotted that and another England player was booked shortly after for another tackle, again not a foul
You know when the ref has got it wrong, it's when the whole crowd spots it as they must have done by sounding an ironic cheer when the first German got booked


The referee was quite wayward, in my view - unlike those in the semi-finals. It wasn't a though she was deliberately biassed, but just a bit, well, random. I wonder if some of the events we saw were just not visible to her or her assistants. Hopefully, it evened out in the long run, and thank goodness she didn't award any penalties, but I do despair when a free kick is awarded incorrectly in a goal threatening position.

Arb.

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby garfsuncle » August 4th, 2022, 6:01 pm

Itsallaguess wrote:
garfsuncle wrote:
But I recognise a lot of names from TMF and send my best regards to all.


What fun that TMF football board was in it's heyday...

The battles with Winker were legendary, riding that United wave as he did at the time.

If only his phone hadn't auto-corrected his Motley Fool account application...

I miss him enormously, and do wish he was still around...

:O)

Cheers,

Itsallaguess


Hi IAAG, it's good to see you're still around. Yes, I well remember Winker and the battles I (and others) had with him on TMF. He saw the world through ManU-coloured spectacles, I think, and was unable to see any other point of view. But he was nonetheless great fun. Surprised he's not on this board.

Best regards
Alan

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Re: Germany V England...The Ladies

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Postby Itsallaguess » August 4th, 2022, 6:41 pm

garfsuncle wrote:
Yes, I well remember Winker and the battles I (and others) had with him on TMF.

He saw the world through ManU-coloured spectacles, I think, and was unable to see any other point of view. But he was nonetheless great fun.

Surprised he's not on this board.


I continue to think that he might be, and for really quite understandable reasons he's just a lot quieter than he used to be....

:O)

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