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How much longer will Ole last?

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby Dod101 » November 20th, 2021, 6:50 pm

Today is surely Ole's last. Watford 4 Man U 1 for Heaven's sake! Will he go or will it be required that he be fired?

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby BobbyD » November 20th, 2021, 11:30 pm

Dod101 wrote:Today is surely Ole's last. Watford 4 Man U 1 for Heaven's sake! Will he go or will it be required that he be fired?

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A sad day for Livrrpool fans everywhere. Still its going to be very amusing seeing who they think they can get as a replacement, and who will actually talk to them.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby Dod101 » November 21st, 2021, 7:59 am

BobbyD wrote:
Dod101 wrote:Today is surely Ole's last. Watford 4 Man U 1 for Heaven's sake! Will he go or will it be required that he be fired?

Dod


Gone subject to owners approval.

A sad day for Livrrpool fans everywhere. Still its going to be very amusing seeing who they think they can get as a replacement, and who will actually talk to them.


I understand your point but it has f all to do with Liverpool fans. In any case, Liverpool fans ought to be able to be more generous than that.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby Lootman » November 21st, 2021, 8:51 am

BobbyD wrote:
Dod101 wrote:Today is surely Ole's last. Watford 4 Man U 1 for Heaven's sake! Will he go or will it be required that he be fired?

Gone subject to owners approval.

A sad day for Liverpool fans everywhere. Still its going to be very amusing seeing who they think they can get as a replacement, and who will actually talk to them.

A few days earlier and maybe Gerrard could have been appointed. Perhaps that would heal the wounds. :D

There can't be many top managers available, at least until the summer. Maybe Carrick and Fletcher can do a "good enough" job until then although not sure Ronaldo will want to take orders from his former peers.

Poisoned chalice, anyone?

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby BobbyD » November 21st, 2021, 9:31 am

Dod101 wrote:
BobbyD wrote:
Dod101 wrote:Today is surely Ole's last. Watford 4 Man U 1 for Heaven's sake! Will he go or will it be required that he be fired?

Dod


Gone subject to owners approval.

A sad day for Livrrpool fans everywhere. Still its going to be very amusing seeing who they think they can get as a replacement, and who will actually talk to them.


I understand your point but it has f all to do with Liverpool fans. In any case, Liverpool fans ought to be able to be more generous than that.

Dod


Temper Temper Dod, this isn't a United forum.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby BobbyD » November 21st, 2021, 9:34 am

Lootman wrote:
There can't be many top managers available, at least until the summer. Maybe Carrick and Fletcher can do a "good enough" job until then


If they string together a few wins against bottom half opposition they might even be appointed as permanent replacements before anybody has a chance to think it through properly.... again.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby Mike88 » November 21st, 2021, 11:12 am

His only qualification for the job was that he was a former player. The powers that be totally ignored his previous record in the Premier League when he virtually bankrupted my club, signed a load of useless players and got them relegated. Hardly a fitting cv to manage one of the world's leading clubs. My only surprise is that he lasted this long. No doubt his £7.5m compensation package will soften the blow.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby pje16 » November 21st, 2021, 11:14 am

BobbyD wrote:If they string together a few wins against bottom half opposition they might even be appointed as permanent replacements before anybody has a chance to think it through properly.... again.

Next up for them is away at Chelsea, so that looks doubtful
but next month they have Norwich Newcastle and Burnley (currently the bottom 3) so the fixture list for them looks like a Christmas present :lol:

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby kiloran » November 21st, 2021, 11:26 am

Mike88 wrote:His only qualification for the job was that he was a former player. The powers that be totally ignored his previous record in the Premier League when he virtually bankrupted my club, signed a load of useless players and got them relegated. Hardly a fitting cv to manage one of the world's leading clubs. My only surprise is that he lasted this long. No doubt his £7.5m compensation package will soften the blow.

To be fair, he won 14 of his first 19 games for MU, winning 8 away games on the trot. In 2019-20 he finished third in the premier league. He finished second last season. He got to 3 semi-finals, and lost in the Europa league final on penalties.
Not too bad, though not up to expectations for MU.
But, on recent form, he has to go

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby Dod101 » November 21st, 2021, 11:49 am

kiloran wrote:
Mike88 wrote:His only qualification for the job was that he was a former player. The powers that be totally ignored his previous record in the Premier League when he virtually bankrupted my club, signed a load of useless players and got them relegated. Hardly a fitting cv to manage one of the world's leading clubs. My only surprise is that he lasted this long. No doubt his £7.5m compensation package will soften the blow.

To be fair, he won 14 of his first 19 games for MU, winning 8 away games on the trot. In 2019-20 he finished third in the premier league. He finished second last season. He got to 3 semi-finals, and lost in the Europa league final on penalties.
Not too bad, though not up to expectations for MU.
But, on recent form, he has to go

--kiloran


Thanks yes that is a much more balanced post but whatever has happened they cannot just wait for a miracle. I have not heard much comment on it but it seems that he must have 'lost the dressingroom'.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby BobbyD » November 21st, 2021, 11:52 am

kiloran wrote:To be fair, he won 14 of his first 19 games for MU, winning 8 away games on the trot.


Cardiff, Toon, Spuds, Leicester, Fulham, Palace, lost to [expletive deleted], lost to Wolves, got hammered by Everton, drew with Huddersfield... Guess you are counting the cup.

kiloran wrote:In 2019-20 he finished third in the premier league.


In 2019-20 united's points tally was closer to relegated Bournemouth's than it was to Liverpool's.

kiloran wrote:He got to 3 semi-finals, and lost in the Europa league final on penalties.


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- https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... te-9960715

kiloran wrote:Not too bad, though not up to expectations for MU.


Would have been a decent run for Leicester, but one of the most expensive and best paid squads in the history of football? Please...

Edited to add: As I've pointed out before at length this isn't actually OGS's fault, he was the wrong appointment as was obvious from the start, but under Woodward every aspect of the footballing side of the club has rotted out. They sign the wrong players, for far too much money on the wrong contracts, and rather than developing them as players and forming them in to a coherent team they make them worse* and send them out without a clue what they should be doing. Ed Woodward absolutely has to be a Liverpool supporter.

*New development: or give them their own personalised seat on the bench

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby monabri » November 21st, 2021, 12:01 pm

A nice chap from what I've seen when interviewed, maybe that was the problem? Sorry to see him go in this manner. Who will take on the role next...who will be available in the New Year?

p.s. Pogba? Man U should have learned from the first time they signed him!

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby BobbyD » November 21st, 2021, 12:42 pm

monabri wrote:A nice chap from what I've seen when interviewed, maybe that was the problem? Sorry to see him go in this manner. Who will take on the role next...who will be available in the New Year?

p.s. Pogba? Man U should have learned from the first time they signed him!


One of 7 United players being paid more than Mo Salah, who even after all the clauses in his transfer have been paid out cost well under half as much!

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby kiloran » November 21st, 2021, 12:46 pm

monabri wrote:A nice chap from what I've seen when interviewed, maybe that was the problem? Sorry to see him go in this manner. Who will take on the role next...who will be available in the New Year?

p.s. Pogba? Man U should have learned from the first time they signed him!

An ex-United player and experienced manager is available right now...... Steve Bruce

--kiloran

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby BobbyD » November 21st, 2021, 12:52 pm

monabri wrote:A nice chap from what I've seen when interviewed, maybe that was the problem? Sorry to see him go in this manner. Who will take on the role next...who will be available in the New Year?

p.s. Pogba? Man U should have learned from the first time they signed him!


I used to know somebody who played youth football with him in Norway, apparently he has always been a thoroughly nice guy.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby pje16 » November 21st, 2021, 12:53 pm

kiloran wrote:To be fair, he won 14 of his first 19 games for MU, winning 8 away games on the trot. In 2019-20 he finished third in the premier league. He finished second last season. He got to 3 semi-finals, and lost in the Europa league final on penalties.
Not too bad, though not up to expectations for MU.
But, on recent form, he has to go
--kiloran

That recent record would delight most clubs
MU live in cloud cuckoo land :lol:

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby BobbyD » November 21st, 2021, 1:13 pm

pje16 wrote:
kiloran wrote:To be fair, he won 14 of his first 19 games for MU, winning 8 away games on the trot. In 2019-20 he finished third in the premier league. He finished second last season. He got to 3 semi-finals, and lost in the Europa league final on penalties.
Not too bad, though not up to expectations for MU.
But, on recent form, he has to go
--kiloran

That recent record would delight most clubs
MU live in cloud cuckoo land :lol:


Most clubs wouldn't have spent half as much money to achieve it.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby SteMiS » November 21st, 2021, 1:27 pm

Mike88 wrote:His only qualification for the job was that he was a former player. The powers that be totally ignored his previous record in the Premier League when he virtually bankrupted my club, signed a load of useless players and got them relegated. Hardly a fitting cv to manage one of the world's leading clubs. My only surprise is that he lasted this long. No doubt his £7.5m compensation package will soften the blow.

I believe Steve Bruce is available... :lol:

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby BobbyD » November 21st, 2021, 1:43 pm

SteMiS wrote:
Mike88 wrote:His only qualification for the job was that he was a former player. The powers that be totally ignored his previous record in the Premier League when he virtually bankrupted my club, signed a load of useless players and got them relegated. Hardly a fitting cv to manage one of the world's leading clubs. My only surprise is that he lasted this long. No doubt his £7.5m compensation package will soften the blow.

I believe Steve Bruce is available... :lol:


Nah. Send for Sam Allardici.

Ok the (selected) odds:

Zidane 7/2
Carrick 9/2
Brendan 5/1
Ralf Rangnick 8/1
Erik ten Hag 10/1
Luis Enrique 14/1
Poch 14/1
Laurent Blanc 22/1
Darren Fletcher 25/1
Wazza 80/1
Mike Phelan, Nuno Espirito Santo, Ryan Giggs 80/1 (ea)
Steve Bruce, Jurgen Klopp & Carlos Queiroz 100/1 (ea)
PeP and Mark Hughes150/1 (ea)
Allardici 175/1
John Terry, Neil Warnock 500/1

I wonder what odds I could get on John Terry with Neil Warnock as his assistant.

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Re: How much longer will Ole last?

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Postby pje16 » November 21st, 2021, 2:19 pm

My money would be on Poch


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