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Anyone who knows Devon?

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Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby stevensfo » February 9th, 2021, 12:19 pm

Slightly strange question, but when I was little, I spent a lot of time with my grandparents who retired to Devon, living first in Churston (Paignton), overlooking Torbay, then in a village between Sidmouth and Budleigh Salterton. Many happy memories.

When we retire, I'd like to have an apartment in that area, firstly for spending part of the year in, then perhaps to live permanently when our large house and garden get too much for us. Who knows?

I admit that I haven't been to Devon for over 40 years, so nostalgia is playing its cruel role as usual, and to be honest, I have similar feelings about the Hunstanton & Kings Lynn area where my other grandparents retired. However, despite many happy times as a child on Hunstanton beach even in the winter,I think that the Devonshire climate is a bit friendlier. ;)

I have no idea how much the area has changed or if all the beaches have been privatised and sold off to foreign buyers for oil exploration, seal culling etc. Nothing surprises me these days!

So anyone with advice on what to avoid? Expensive areas vs cheaper under-appreciated areas?

Steve

PS I'm pretty sure that c.1975, I left a half-sucked piece of rock under a bench in Babbacombe bay. I may have to wash it first though.

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby chas49 » February 9th, 2021, 12:40 pm

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby dealtn » February 9th, 2021, 1:03 pm

stevensfo wrote:
So anyone with advice on what to avoid? Expensive areas vs cheaper under-appreciated areas?



The only part I know particularly well is the North coast in the Croyde area. Very nice. I have walked through Devon (roughly speaking Wellington to Holsworthy) which was a pleasant, but rather quiet, County from memory. Perhaps the coasts are busier, particularly "in-season" I would imagine. I will have to look back at my blog and notes and remind myself what happened and what it was like.

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby jackdaww » February 9th, 2021, 1:49 pm

weve been going to east devon over 20 years .

not cheap , but very nice .

exmouth and seaton are underated so a bit cheaper perhaps.

:)

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby Lootman » February 9th, 2021, 2:25 pm

We have had a house in Devon for well over 20 years. We spend varying amounts of time there but it is not our full-time home. It is in Dartmoor and so expensive and cold in winter, which might not be what you seek. Chagford is considered the most desirable town there and renowned restaurant Gidleigh Park is just a couple of miles away. Exeter is half an hour by road, which is 2 hours from Paddington and has a useful airport.

Sidmouth is a lovely town as you appear to know, but it doesn't have a railway station and there are only 2 roads in and out, which can cause bottlenecks.

East Devon has the best weather and sandy beaches, but there must be a million people living along the coast between Exeter, Torquay and Plymouth. I like Shaldon, across from Teighmouth, and the impossibly delightful town of Salcombe if you are a boat person. And Dartmouth of course.

If you have hippie tendencies then you might like Totnes. I do not.

I don't know too much about North Devon except to avoid Minehead, although that might be just across the county line in Somerset.

If you like to shop at Waitrose, and I do, then they exist in Sidmouth, Exeter, Torquay, Okehampton and Holsworthy. The one in Teignmouth closed, sadly.

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Postby Gerry557 » February 9th, 2021, 2:37 pm

I would suggest looking on Zoopla or Rightmove at property that you might be interested in. Plus they give some local info.

If you want sea views or to be right on the coast you will pay a premium. You can move more inland to get something with more bang for your buck but will then be in queues for the beaches. I tended to use them more in winter than summer.

It depends on what you imagine as useage, grandkids staying over, straight onto the beach or a close base of operations.

I would say that I know the North Devon coast better, like most places there are good and bad areas everywhere. Some of the little villages are great but you have to travel some distance for big supermarkets or shopping centers.

The summer traffic is also terrible especially if you are trying to get home on a Bank Holiday weekend that is forecast to be sunny

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Postby 6Tricia » February 9th, 2021, 4:38 pm

Lootman wrote:If you like to shop at Waitrose, and I do, then they exist in Sidmouth, Exeter, Torquay, Okehampton and Holsworthy. The one in Teignmouth closed, sadly.


The Torquay branch closed back in 2019! It's now a Lidl ;) .

Tricia

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby Mike88 » February 9th, 2021, 5:39 pm

6Tricia wrote:
Lootman wrote:If you like to shop at Waitrose, and I do, then they exist in Sidmouth, Exeter, Torquay, Okehampton and Holsworthy. The one in Teignmouth closed, sadly.


The Torquay branch closed back in 2019! It's now a Lidl ;) .

Tricia


As is the Teignmouth one.

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby Mike88 » February 9th, 2021, 6:11 pm

Lootman wrote:We have had a house in Devon for well over 20 years. We spend varying amounts of time there but it is not our full-time home. It is in Dartmoor and so expensive and cold in winter, which might not be what you seek. Chagford is considered the most desirable town there and renowned restaurant Gidleigh Park is just a couple of miles away. Exeter is half an hour by road, which is 2 hours from Paddington and has a useful airport.

Sidmouth is a lovely town as you appear to know, but it doesn't have a railway station and there are only 2 roads in and out, which can cause bottlenecks.

East Devon has the best weather and sandy beaches, but there must be a million people living along the coast between Exeter, Torquay and Plymouth. I like Shaldon, across from Teighmouth, and the impossibly delightful town of Salcombe if you are a boat person. And Dartmouth of course.

If you have hippie tendencies then you might like Totnes. I do not.

I don't know too much about North Devon except to avoid Minehead, although that might be just across the county line in Somerset.

If you like to shop at Waitrose, and I do, then they exist in Sidmouth, Exeter, Torquay, Okehampton and Holsworthy. The one in Teignmouth closed, sadly.


I live permanently in South Devon. I see the above post mentions Shaldon. I live just across the water from there. Nice place, expensive but sadly the sun disappears behind the cliff after lunch which would be hopeless for some. The town has a nice atmosphere; there are apartments going for a reasonable price (under 400k) and some one bedroomed flats for less but a property nearer the front would cost more. In the summer a run down house was sold for £900k. Salcombe, also mentioned, is horrendously expensive and is mainly for boat owners and second home wealthy occasional residents.

The original post mentions Budleigh Salterton. The place is still undeveloped and is one of the few places which is largely unchanged. Sidmouth remains pretty much the same although the cliffs are rapidly crumbling so don't think about buying anything nearby. Seaton is also OK with a nice tramway along the estuary to Coleton which is also a nice place but feels isolated.

Don't consider buying in Torquay; the place is full of druggies, people living on the streets as well as a high level of crime although Babbacombe is nice. Unlike an earlier poster I like Totnes but it can be expensive. The hippies haven't been around for a couple of years but they are harmless enough. There are new apartments in the town but they are very small; I've been in a few and I wouldn't want to live in one. Most don't have lifts so seem designed mainly as second homes.

The downside of living in Devon is the terrain. When I first moved here 15 years ago, the hills didn't bother me but now it's a struggle to even get out of the road on foot or even walk back from the beach even though I have a protected right of way to a private footpath giving beach access which we can't take advantage of due to the climb. Most residents, the retirees, in my town for example now walk to the beach and shops, then catch the bus back using the free bus pass. We are very lucky to live here especially in the summer when we feel as though we are on holiday enjoying the area with the thousands of other holidaymakers.

As for the climate, south Devon is mild in the winter but, surprisingly, is one of the cooler places in the south during the summer months.

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby Lootman » February 9th, 2021, 7:48 pm

Mike88 wrote:As for the climate, south Devon is mild in the winter but, surprisingly, is one of the cooler places in the south during the summer months.

You could say that about most of the South-West i.e. that it is the mildest part of the UK in winter but nothing special in the summer. Teignmouth supposedly has the highest average year-round temperature in the UK, sheltered as it is by Dartmoor to the west. You have to mow the lawn in winter there, I was told. But can be wet and windy for much of the summer as I feel sure you know.

Torbay is the self-styled "English Riviera" and you do see palm trees there although someone told me you can grow them in parts of Scotland. Every time I have been to Torquay it has been raining. Let's face it, if good weather is a retirement requirement, then you need to go overseas.

I forgot to mention Topsham earlier. Lovely town on the Exe estuary and handy for Exeter. Has the only pub that the Queen has officially visited: The Bridge Inn. Ask nicely and they may show you their spectacular basement.

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Postby dealtn » February 9th, 2021, 7:57 pm

Lootman wrote:
Torbay is the self-styled "English Riviera" and you do see palm trees there although someone told me you can grow them in parts of Scotland. Every time I have been to Torquay it has been raining.


I have been there precisely once (admittedly 2 weeks ago in January, so a very small sample skewed to Winter), absolutely awful weather!

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby JonnyT » February 24th, 2021, 4:11 pm

How about Lyme Regis just over the border in Dorset. Absolutely fantastic ;)

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Re: Anyone who knows Devon?

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Postby dspp » February 24th, 2021, 7:00 pm

JonnyT wrote:How about Lyme Regis just over the border in Dorset. Absolutely fantastic ;)


No. No. No. Go away everybody. Dorset is absolutely full up.

It rains all the time (40"/year). The roads are gridlocked with grockels all Summer long. The housing is overpriced. The railway service is awful. We have Bournemouth for a neighbour. You'll die of a heart attack before the ambulance gets within 10-miles of you. The monarch owns most everything and her chums and/or heirs own the rest and make their own rules. Very few yacht moorings.

Best go west to Devon or north to Somerset or east to Solent/Hampshire. Anything but Dorset.

regards, dspp

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Postby Lootman » February 24th, 2021, 7:06 pm

dspp wrote:
JonnyT wrote:How about Lyme Regis just over the border in Dorset. Absolutely fantastic ;)

No. No. No. Go away everybody. Dorset is absolutely full up.

It rains all the time (40"/year). The roads are gridlocked with grockels all Summer long. The housing is overpriced. The railway service is awful. We have Bournemouth for a neighbour. You'll die of a heart attack before the ambulance gets within 10-miles of you.

Ha. When we had a house in Dorset (Purbeck to be precise) we would get cut off from the nearest town when the army decided to engage in target practice and would close the one road. Luckily we never needed an ambulance during that time - I guess they would have sent a helicopter.


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