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Mike4 wrote:But your question takes us straight into wondering which vaccine you are expecting to get. The Oxford vaccine does not generate immunity until six weeks after the second dose according to R4 this morning. Given the other two also require two doses a month apart, and I've heard it said immunity does not develop in those either until after the second dose, you might need to do some medium to long term planning for your air trip given resistance takes 2 to 3 months to develop.
Mike4 wrote: The Oxford vaccine does not generate immunity until six weeks after the second dose according to R4 this morning. Given the other two also require two doses a month apart, and I've heard it said immunity does not develop in those either until after the second dose, you might need to do some medium to long term planning for your air trip given resistance takes 2 to 3 months to develop.
john10001 wrote:I don't understand why the Qantas CEO would be proposing something so Orwellian for something no worse than seasonal flu and with a higher survival rate. I think the comments by the CEO of Qantas is very much an overreaction and a very disturbing one at that.
Lootman wrote:Bear in mind also that Qantas does not fly domestically and so this directive specifically targets foreigners and international travel only.
swill453 wrote:Lootman wrote:Bear in mind also that Qantas does not fly domestically and so this directive specifically targets foreigners and international travel only.
Hmm, you could also spin it that's it's protecting foreigners, by insisting that any Australian natives it takes to their countries are vaccinated first.
Scott.
servodude wrote:swill453 wrote:Lootman wrote:Bear in mind also that Qantas does not fly domestically and so this directive specifically targets foreigners and international travel only.
Hmm, you could also spin it that's it's protecting foreigners, by insisting that any Australian natives it takes to their countries are vaccinated first.
He's a bit of a gobshite is Alan Joyce (something about running an airline attracts than) and this smells like marketing; he'll be attracting more passengers in the short term because Qantas are carrying more "domestic" passengers than anything else at the moment, and this plays straight to the cautious approach for them.
How that works practically going forward given codesharing depends on how their partners react; but it looks like a successful "on brand" decision to curry local favour at the moment.
Lootman wrote:servodude wrote:swill453 wrote:Hmm, you could also spin it that's it's protecting foreigners, by insisting that any Australian natives it takes to their countries are vaccinated first.
He's a bit of a gobshite is Alan Joyce (something about running an airline attracts than) and this smells like marketing; he'll be attracting more passengers in the short term because Qantas are carrying more "domestic" passengers than anything else at the moment, and this plays straight to the cautious approach for them.
How that works practically going forward given codesharing depends on how their partners react; but it looks like a successful "on brand" decision to curry local favour at the moment.
When I was in Australia, albeit 30 years ago, Qantas could not fly Australians domestically. Non-Australians could however and I flew from Brisbane to Sydney on a fairly empty Qantas flight. There were a couple of other airlines for domestic flights.
Has that changed?
Dod101 wrote:Lootman wrote:servodude wrote:He's a bit of a gobshite is Alan Joyce (something about running an airline attracts than) and this smells like marketing; he'll be attracting more passengers in the short term because Qantas are carrying more "domestic" passengers than anything else at the moment, and this plays straight to the cautious approach for them.
How that works practically going forward given codesharing depends on how their partners react; but it looks like a successful "on brand" decision to curry local favour at the moment.
When I was in Australia, albeit 30 years ago, Qantas could not fly Australians domestically. Non-Australians could however and I flew from Brisbane to Sydney on a fairly empty Qantas flight. There were a couple of other airlines for domestic flights.
Has that changed?
The Qantas of 30 years ago was quite good and had an excellent safety record as I recall, but the one today is very different. In the last couple of years I guess,I flew with them from Singapore to Perth, WA and then I think on to Melbourne. Not a good flight as I recall.
Dod
Dod101 wrote:That's interesting because it sort of aligns with my experience as a foreigner picking up a domestic connection. Qantas really nowadays do not give a very good impression to folk like me I must say.
Dod
Dod101 wrote:Maybe a touch OTT?
And if seasonal flu is so insignificant, why is it that many people get a flu vaccination annually?
Dod
john10001 wrote:If the flu vaccine is effective why do you need a new one every year?
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