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Another scam?

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Postby orchard101 » October 19th, 2018, 4:12 pm

I recently got an e-mail advising that somebody had something to deliver to me. On reading it I had an I-phone waiting, order details and other information, including a trace number' was included.

Now I know that I had no such order so I did not click on the 'click here' button, but imagine if someone has such a phone on order. They would have been, at least tempted.

Anyone else heard of such an e-mail?

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby bungeejumper » October 19th, 2018, 4:22 pm

If it's coming, it'll come. Simples.

If it's the Post Office wanting you to pay under-postage on something, they'll make that clear. And if it's one of those wretched "XXX has sent you an e-card" (possibly innocent), nobody is forcing you to open it. (I don't, even if it's from my daughters. They should know better by now.)

Certainly sounds like one of those scams where they ask you for an administration charge up front and then disappear. Try grabbing a section of text from the email and googling it, to see what others have said about it?

Otherwise, do nothing.

BJ

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby Slarti » October 19th, 2018, 6:45 pm

orchard101 wrote:I recently got an e-mail advising that somebody had something to deliver to me. On reading it I had an I-phone waiting, order details and other information, including a trace number' was included.

Now I know that I had no such order so I did not click on the 'click here' button, but imagine if someone has such a phone on order. They would have been, at least tempted.

Anyone else heard of such an e-mail?


Yes, scam!

Either the button will take you to a site that will try to download something nasty, or the something nasty is with the email and it will try to install.

Who did the email claim to be from?

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby orchard101 » October 19th, 2018, 7:19 pm

Supposedly from:

iPostExpress/update[dietand nutritionscience].

Never heard of them.

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby Julian » October 19th, 2018, 10:15 pm

I suspect it's a bit like the thing about what are the chances in a room with 23 people in it that two people in there will have their birthday on the same day and month of the year? Most people are surprised that the chance is so high (50% - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem). These targeted scams are looking for intersections, e.g. the perfect target audience for that iPhone one is the intersection of all people who are legitimately expecting an iPhone to be delivered and all the people the scammers have mailed at random. Given the number of emails often sent by such scams and the number of iPhones shipped each day the intersection is probably surprisingly large. More generic ones are supposed status updates on "Your FedEx delivery" or "your DHL delivery" or similar which I imagine also have the potential to snare a surprisingly high number of genuine FedEx/DHL/etc customers. If someone is actually expecting such a delivery it is a lot easier to be tricked.

The iPhone one is quite specific but the timing is actually clever. Ordering for one of the new 2018 iPhones announced in September, the iPhone XR, just went live earlier today (https://bgr.com/2018/10/19/iphone-xr-pr ... 6-release/). In theory they won't ship for another week but I can well imagine an eager customer who has just placed their pre-order thinking "wow, it's shipping straight away, they must have enough stock" and clicking on the button which as mentioned is almost certainly connected to a malware site.

All very nasty stuff.

- Julian

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby JonE » October 20th, 2018, 7:24 am

Julian wrote:... what are the chances in a room with 23 people in it that two people in there will have their birthday on the same day and month of the year? Most people are surprised that the chance is so high (50% ...

OT.
Loyal listeners of Radio 4's "More or Less" programme may recall that they applied this to real-world test data of World Cup football squads (of 2014, IIRC) which, conveniently, consist of 23 players.

The unexpectedly higher percentage in the results caused them to re-examine the data, realise that birth dates had been taken from Wikipedia, clean up all the data with actuals and repeat - with 50% result. GIGO

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby Slarti » October 20th, 2018, 5:38 pm

orchard101 wrote:Supposedly from:

iPostExpress/update[dietand nutritionscience].

Never heard of them.


In that case, no question, it is a scam of some sort and should be dumped, ASAP

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby pje16 » June 30th, 2022, 12:26 pm

and a fresh one today
Ghost broking: Young and vulnerable people targeted by insurance scam
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-61992772

tell your kids

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby DrFfybes » June 30th, 2022, 3:21 pm

pje16 wrote:and a fresh one today
Ghost broking: Young and vulnerable people targeted by insurance scam
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-61992772

tell your kids


Not that new, but becoming more common. There's a document from 2015 from the ABI warning about it

Search for "Insurance Fraudsters A study for the ABI"

Paul

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Re: Another scam?

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Postby pje16 » June 30th, 2022, 3:24 pm

approx 21,000 caught out by it ... so far


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