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Help with new TV

#345325

Postby Clitheroekid » October 5th, 2020, 12:08 pm

I recently did my once a decade TV renewal, and bought a Samsung UE43TU8500.

I'm very pleased with it, but I've hit a problem. I have an ancient, but still perfectly serviceable Panasonic DMR-EX768EB DVD Recorder, which connected to my old TV with a Scart cable. Unfortunately, the new TV doesn't have a Scart socket, so does this mean that I can no longer use my DVD Recorder? Or is there some other way of connecting the two?

TIA for any help.

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby mc2fool » October 5th, 2020, 12:13 pm

You need a SCART->HDMI converter, e.g. https://www.amazon.co.uk/JXWL-Converter ... ref=sr_1_5 (not a recommendation, just the first one I came across)

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Re: Help with new TV

#345334

Postby Rover110 » October 5th, 2020, 12:35 pm

Do check if it has an HDMI socket. A quick web search claimed "There’s an HDMI 1.3 output" https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/ ... d-recorder
You might just need an HDMI cable - not a converter.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Help with new TV

#345337

Postby AsleepInYorkshire » October 5th, 2020, 12:38 pm

Slightly off topic - you now have to watch every film you've ever seen before to see the detail you've previously missed :lol:

AiY

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Re: Help with new TV

#345338

Postby Stompa » October 5th, 2020, 12:40 pm

Rover110 wrote:Do check if it has an HDMI socket. A quick web search claimed "There’s an HDMI 1.3 output" https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/ ... d-recorder
You might just need an HDMI cable - not a converter.

The picture here:

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/65071 ... e=9#manual

would seem to suggest so too.

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby Itsallaguess » October 5th, 2020, 12:45 pm

Stompa wrote:
Rover110 wrote:
Do check if it has an HDMI socket. A quick web search claimed "There’s an HDMI 1.3 output" https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/ ... d-recorder
You might just need an HDMI cable - not a converter.


The picture here:

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/65071 ... e=9#manual

would seem to suggest so too.


Yep - it looks like CK might be in luck -

Image

Image source - https://www.manualslib.com/manual/650711/Panasonic-Diga-Dmr-Ex768eb.html?page=9#manual

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby Mike88 » October 5th, 2020, 12:47 pm

Clitheroekid wrote:I recently did my once a decade TV renewal, and bought a Samsung UE43TU8500.

I'm very pleased with it, but I've hit a problem. I have an ancient, but still perfectly serviceable Panasonic DMR-EX768EB DVD Recorder, which connected to my old TV with a Scart cable. Unfortunately, the new TV doesn't have a Scart socket, so does this mean that I can no longer use my DVD Recorder? Or is there some other way of connecting the two?

TIA for any help.


Are you sure there wasn't a SCART to HDMI converter cable in the TV's box ? My Samsung TV came with one.

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby AF62 » October 6th, 2020, 7:00 am

Won’t watching DVDs on a 4K TV be quite a poor experience?

These days with all the streamed catch up services I rarely find the need to record anything on the HDD recorder I have. And if it is live TV you want to pause them a memory stick in one of the USB sockets will do that on a Samsung TV.

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby Clitheroekid » October 6th, 2020, 7:18 pm

Many thanks for the replies. It's now working perfectly :D

AF62 wrote:Won’t watching DVDs on a 4K TV be quite a poor experience?

I don't and won't know, as I never watch DVDs. Nearly all the TV I watch is either recorded or streamed. In fact, I think the only live TV I've watched recently has been sporting events.

These days with all the streamed catch up services I rarely find the need to record anything on the HDD recorder I have.

Catch up is all very well, but if it's on a commercial channel you're still forced to watch advertising, which you can skip through on recorded TV.

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby AF62 » October 6th, 2020, 9:16 pm

Clitheroekid wrote:
AF62 wrote:
Won’t watching DVDs on a 4K TV be quite a poor experience?

I don't and won't know, as I never watch DVDs. Nearly all the TV I watch is either recorded or streamed. In fact, I think the only live TV I've watched recently has been sporting events.


But wasn’t it a DVD recorder you were connecting?

Clitheroekid wrote:
AF62 wrote:These days with all the streamed catch up services I rarely find the need to record anything on the HDD recorder I have.

Catch up is all very well, but if it's on a commercial channel you're still forced to watch advertising, which you can skip through on recorded TV.


Connecting your smart TV through OpenDNS with some appropriate blocking filters can remove the adverts on streaming services.

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby GrahamPlatt » October 6th, 2020, 9:42 pm

AF62 wrote:Connecting your smart TV through OpenDNS with some appropriate blocking filters can remove the adverts on streaming services.


So do you then get 5 or 10 minutes of blank screen that you can’t fast-forward?

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby servodude » October 7th, 2020, 12:38 am

GrahamPlatt wrote:
AF62 wrote:Connecting your smart TV through OpenDNS with some appropriate blocking filters can remove the adverts on streaming services.


So do you then get 5 or 10 minutes of blank screen that you can’t fast-forward?


not normally
- online adds are generally sourced as independent streams spliced in to the one you are watching (allows "them" to tailor them to you - or you to them more accurately)
sometimes blocking their sources can result in a noticeable period of attempting to fetch before giving up
but that depends on how the player software has been configured

- sd

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby AF62 » October 7th, 2020, 11:20 am

servodude wrote:
GrahamPlatt wrote:
AF62 wrote:Connecting your smart TV through OpenDNS with some appropriate blocking filters can remove the adverts on streaming services.


So do you then get 5 or 10 minutes of blank screen that you can’t fast-forward?


not normally
- online adds are generally sourced as independent streams spliced in to the one you are watching (allows "them" to tailor them to you - or you to them more accurately)
sometimes blocking their sources can result in a noticeable period of attempting to fetch before giving up
but that depends on how the player software has been configured

- sd


I find you get the ‘outro’ card for the adverts and then immediately the ‘intro’ card and back to the show again without any break at all.

Seems to work fine with the ITV hub, All4, and Channel Five, but UKTV is a bit more hit and miss.

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby mc2fool » October 7th, 2020, 11:54 am

AF62 wrote:Connecting your smart TV through OpenDNS with some appropriate blocking filters can remove the adverts on streaming services.

Ok, so presumably you block certain domains, but which? And, importantly, how do you find out what to block (in case it changes in future)?

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby Clitheroekid » October 7th, 2020, 1:44 pm

AF62 wrote:
Clitheroekid wrote:
AF62 wrote:
Won’t watching DVDs on a 4K TV be quite a poor experience?

I don't and won't know, as I never watch DVDs. Nearly all the TV I watch is either recorded or streamed. In fact, I think the only live TV I've watched recently has been sporting events.


But wasn’t it a DVD recorder you were connecting?

Yes, it does play DVDs, but its main use - and the only purpose for which I use it - is recording TV.

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby AF62 » October 7th, 2020, 3:56 pm

mc2fool wrote:
AF62 wrote:Connecting your smart TV through OpenDNS with some appropriate blocking filters can remove the adverts on streaming services.

Ok, so presumably you block certain domains, but which? And, importantly, how do you find out what to block (in case it changes in future)?


How did I find out - the internet!

But blocking these seems to deal with them -

2356e.v.fwmrm.net
2a7e9.v.fwmrm.net
ad.doubleclick.net
ads-pres.channel4.com
cdn.http.anno.channel4.com
cdn.ss.anno.channel4.com
oas.five.tv
p.videologygroup.com
s-video.innovid.com
securecdn.videologygroup.com
tom.itv.com
toots-a.akamaihd.net
trk-euwest.tidaltv.com

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby mc2fool » November 14th, 2020, 4:12 pm

AF62 wrote:
mc2fool wrote:
AF62 wrote:Connecting your smart TV through OpenDNS with some appropriate blocking filters can remove the adverts on streaming services.

Ok, so presumably you block certain domains, but which? And, importantly, how do you find out what to block (in case it changes in future)?


How did I find out - the internet!

But blocking these seems to deal with them -

2356e.v.fwmrm.net
2a7e9.v.fwmrm.net
ad.doubleclick.net
ads-pres.channel4.com
cdn.http.anno.channel4.com
cdn.ss.anno.channel4.com
oas.five.tv
p.videologygroup.com
s-video.innovid.com
securecdn.videologygroup.com
tom.itv.com
toots-a.akamaihd.net
trk-euwest.tidaltv.com

Just an FYI to anyone else trying this ... I set this up a few weeks ago, blocking exactly those above, and tried it at the time (I think with Ch4) and it seemed to work fine.

I don't stream very often, still preferring to record, so that was that, but yesterday, having failed to record Star Trek TNG (Horror: freeview 68), due to fat finger problems, I went to watch the episode on the CBS player only to find it got stuck straight off with an endless spinning loading graphic.

Reverting to a non-filtering DNS server fixed it, so the FYI is that this method of removing adverts from streaming services doesn't work with the CBS player. Well ok, it removes the ads, sure, but it also removes the programme! :D

(On checking the OpenDNS stats I see it was the first one in the list, 2356e.v.fwmrm.net, that was blocked, but I can't be faffed to experiment with it at all....)

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Re: Help with new TV

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Postby CatcheeMonkee » November 15th, 2020, 3:34 pm

I've had a go myself.

Just using:

ad.doubleclick.net
adclick.g.doubleclick.net
ads-pres.channel4.com
cdn.http.anno.channel4.com
cdn.ss.anno.channel4.com

plus:

doubleclick.net
googleleads.g.doubleclick.net

blocked ads on CH4 and CH5. But not ITV. On UKTV Play I need to click 'Retry' after initial warning and then the programme played OK.

Adding tom.itv.com from the original list removed the ads from the ITV Hub programmes but also removed the ability to pause, fast forward etc.

I see fewer ads online, too.


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