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bath re-enamelling

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Postby Mike4 » March 13th, 2021, 11:11 am

Anyone here had a bath re-enamelled with good results? Would you recommend who did it?

I have a really nice-shaped good quality cast iron roll-top bath in my little cottage but the previous owners spoiled the glaze finish by using (I suspect) limescale remover. The enamel is rough and dull in places, looks dirty and will not clean up nicely.

It will be much easier to get it re-finished than getting it out and fitting a new bath. (Tiny little old and winding staircase!)

Lots of websites offer it but none really inspires much confidence, hence my enquiry...

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby bungeejumper » March 13th, 2021, 11:40 am

I take it you mean painting it, rather than sandblasting it down to the bare metal and baking on a new porcelain finish at 1,500 degrees?

No personal experience of on-site repairs, but probably best to ask around locally. Definitely not a job for the average DIY-er, as my bro-in-law could have attested. Mind you, it didn't help that the colour he chose was avocado. :lol:

BJ

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby Mike4 » March 13th, 2021, 11:54 am

bungeejumper wrote:I take it you mean painting it, rather than sandblasting it down to the bare metal and baking on a new porcelain finish at 1,500 degrees?


Well ideally, if you know someone who can do that with the bath still in situ, great, thanks!

But yes I did originally put a para in about realising it was paint not vitreous enamel, but deleted it again for simplicity and clarity of question!

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby 88V8 » March 13th, 2021, 11:04 pm

Renubath have been around a long time.

From comments I recall, how well the result lasts depends how well you look after it. It won't be as robust as the factory glaze.

Dunno if the female version of Dilbert's boss is part of the package.
http://www.renubath.co.uk/

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby sg31 » March 14th, 2021, 11:18 am

I had an old art deco bath redone in situ in the early 90's. We moved after 5 years but it was as good then as when it was redone.

I would expect techniques and /or materials have improved since then.

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby Mike4 » March 14th, 2021, 11:32 am

88V8 wrote:Renubath have been around a long time.

From comments I recall, how well the result lasts depends how well you look after it. It won't be as robust as the factory glaze.

Dunno if the female version of Dilbert's boss is part of the package.
http://www.renubath.co.uk/

V8


Lol that is a GREAT photo though. Model is clearly having a right laugh with the photographer!

As far as looking after it is concerned, it won't be getting a great deal of use. I have a bath once a month regardless, whether I need it or not.

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby SMarkus » March 15th, 2021, 8:50 am

Mike, we did get our cast iron bath coated with a resin coating. It doesn't last especially well, I'm afraid to say and we had it redone a couple of times. Then I found someone who would come and collect the bath and do proper vitreous re-enamelling. That was fantastic, but not cheap, in the region of £800. If you want the name of the company then I can probably find it for you - I would not recommend the resin coating.

Steve.

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby GrahamPlatt » March 15th, 2021, 9:59 am

I had a lovely old cast iron bath which was part of the fixtures in a house I bought a long time ago (since sold). The enamel was getting a bit shonky so I contacted a firm who purported to do “re-enamelling”. Turned out to be a guy who came around to the house with a can of resin paint . The finish looked good for about three years, then started peeling.

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » March 15th, 2021, 10:09 am

Mike4 wrote:Anyone here had a bath re-enamelled with good results? Would you recommend who did it?

I have a really nice-shaped good quality cast iron roll-top bath in my little cottage but the previous owners spoiled the glaze finish by using (I suspect) limescale remover. The enamel is rough and dull in places, looks dirty and will not clean up nicely.

It will be much easier to get it re-finished than getting it out and fitting a new bath. (Tiny little old and winding staircase!)

Lots of websites offer it but none really inspires much confidence, hence my enquiry...

Buy new Mike

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby Mike4 » March 15th, 2021, 10:39 am

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:
Mike4 wrote:Anyone here had a bath re-enamelled with good results? Would you recommend who did it?

I have a really nice-shaped good quality cast iron roll-top bath in my little cottage but the previous owners spoiled the glaze finish by using (I suspect) limescale remover. The enamel is rough and dull in places, looks dirty and will not clean up nicely.

It will be much easier to get it re-finished than getting it out and fitting a new bath. (Tiny little old and winding staircase!)

Lots of websites offer it but none really inspires much confidence, hence my enquiry...

Buy new Mike

AiY


Thanks for the replies everyone.

Yes I would normally buy new, but in this case the reason not to is disposing of the existing bath. It weighs an absolute ton and frankly, having spent 20 years in the bathroom business and moved several hundred of these things around I don't want to risk trying to get this one down a tiny and lightly built 300 year old winding staircase. Cast iron baths are incredibly clumsy things to handle especially on stairs. I very much doubt it came up this staircase in the first place, my guess is a cherry picker or fork lift put it in through the window during the ground-up renovation here that took place around the year 2000.

The other option is to break it up in situ, but having done this many times too I know how much sledge-hammer swinging this one will take, in a cramped bathroom contining some other expensive sanitaryware nearby and a nice glass shower enclosure. Also the sheer mess it creates with millions of shards of shattered glaze showered with every blow rather troubles me, hence my interest in getting it resurfaced.

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » March 15th, 2021, 10:52 am

Mike4 wrote:
AsleepInYorkshire wrote:
Mike4 wrote:Anyone here had a bath re-enamelled with good results? Would you recommend who did it?

I have a really nice-shaped good quality cast iron roll-top bath in my little cottage but the previous owners spoiled the glaze finish by using (I suspect) limescale remover. The enamel is rough and dull in places, looks dirty and will not clean up nicely.

It will be much easier to get it re-finished than getting it out and fitting a new bath. (Tiny little old and winding staircase!)

Lots of websites offer it but none really inspires much confidence, hence my enquiry...

Buy new Mike

AiY


Thanks for the replies everyone.

Yes I would normally buy new, but in this case the reason not to is disposing of the existing bath. It weighs an absolute ton and frankly, having spent 20 years in the bathroom business and moved several hundred of these things around I don't want to risk trying to get this one down a tiny and lightly built 300 year old winding staircase. Cast iron baths are incredibly clumsy things to handle especially on stairs. I very much doubt it came up this staircase in the first place, my guess is a cherry picker or fork lift put it in through the window during the ground-up renovation here that took place around the year 2000.

The other option is to break it up in situ, but having done this many times too I know how much sledge-hammer swinging this one will take, in a cramped bathroom contining some other expensive sanitaryware nearby and a nice glass shower enclosure. Also the sheer mess it creates with millions of shards of shattered glaze showered with every blow rather troubles me, hence my interest in getting it resurfaced.

Ah ha :lol:

Buy a bigger cottage with straight stairs then :roll: (My bad)

Am in the lobby with my coat :lol:

So to summarise

Option A - leave it
Option B - do something with it

Where do I send my bill :lol:

AiY

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby bungeejumper » March 15th, 2021, 10:57 am

Mike4 wrote:It will be much easier to get it re-finished than getting it out and fitting a new bath. (Tiny little old and winding staircase!)

Naaah, taking the old cast iron bath out takes half an hour. Big heavy army blanket, turn it over, warn the neighbours. Lump hammer, carry the bits out to the skip. Mind you, you'll be hoovering up shards of glass for the next five years. :lol:

Done it twice. Horrible rubbishy old baths on both occasions. Now, if they'd been clawfoot it might have been a different matter? I'll tell you one thing, though. The water stays warmer for longer in an acrylic tub. All you need to add then is the bubbles and the naked lady.

[Edit: have just seen your latest reply, looks like we crossed there. I did try cutting up one bath with an angle grinder, and it worked, but the mess was unbelievable. I have a photo somewhere of me looking like a coal miner, covered from head to foot in black iron filings. Apart from the white bits where my goggles had been. :lol: ]

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » March 15th, 2021, 11:04 am

bungeejumper wrote:All you need to add then is the bubbles and the naked lady.BJ

Not pc :P

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby bungeejumper » March 15th, 2021, 11:11 am

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:
bungeejumper wrote:All you need to add then is the bubbles and the naked lady.BJ

Not pc :P

You're right. A dog would be just as happy in there. :)

BJ

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby jfgw » March 15th, 2021, 12:01 pm

bungeejumper wrote:Naaah, taking the old cast iron bath out takes half an hour. Big heavy army blanket, turn it over, warn the neighbours. Lump hammer, carry the bits out to the skip. Mind you, you'll be hoovering up shards of glass for the next five years.


You didn't mention the ear defenders.

The bells, the bells...


Julian F. G. W.

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby Mike4 » March 15th, 2021, 12:05 pm

bungeejumper wrote: Now, if they'd been clawfoot it might have been a different matter?


That's EXACTLY what it is.... :)

I have a really nice-shaped good quality cast iron roll-top bath


Roll top (as opposed to flat top) always means oval shape, claw feet, extra deep, extra wide, extra heavy, extra thick, weighs 3cwt...

Apart from them newfangled plastic things masquerading as baths.

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby Mike4 » March 15th, 2021, 12:08 pm

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:Buy a bigger cottage with straight stairs then :roll: (My bad)

Am in the lobby with my coat :lol:

So to summarise

Option A - leave it
Option B - do something with it

Where do I send my bill :lol:

AiY


Many thanks for your excellent and most incisive analysis.

Cheque's in the post....

:lol: :lol:


(Edit to fiddle with it.)

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » March 15th, 2021, 12:34 pm

Mike4 wrote:
AsleepInYorkshire wrote:Buy a bigger cottage with straight stairs then :roll: (My bad)

Am in the lobby with my coat :lol:

So to summarise

Option A - leave it
Option B - do something with it

Where do I send my bill :lol:

AiY


Many thanks for your excellent and most incisive analysis.

Cheque's in the post....

:lol: :lol:


(Edit to fiddle with it.)

Well I was going to BJ's line and tell you to drink a few beers and then smash seven bells out the bath. But I did feel my sense of humour wouldn't be appreciated :roll:

AiY
PS ... I only do cash :roll:

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby pompeygazza » March 18th, 2021, 1:25 pm

I'm pretty sure on Escape to the Chateau they re-enamelled an old bath, you may be able to find the clip on youtube.

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Re: bath re-enamelling

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Postby JohnB » March 18th, 2021, 2:47 pm

Follow Mr Pooter's advice (https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1026/1026-h/1026-h.htm chapter 3), he used Pinkfords enamel paint.


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