The Lemon Fool

The revised Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government guidance note is here:

Guidance: Further businesses and premises to close
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874732/230320_-_Revised_guidance_note_-_finalVF.pdf

PinkDalek wrote:The revised Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government guidance note is here:

Guidance: Further businesses and premises to close
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874732/230320_-_Revised_guidance_note_-_finalVF.pdf

Unfortunately they are still not being sufficiently clear and consistent.

1. Half of them are running around telling all non-essential businesses to close.

2. The other half of them are running around telling all businesses to close that are not on the essential list.

There is a big gap in the middle.

This is a considerable ambiguity. This is causing real issues in non-keyboard workplaces, i.e. where real people do real work in real factories. Often with very low density human spacing.

Gove was the most honest this morning on r4 when he said that economic health of the nation was also important.

As you can imagine every media person or politician that doesn't have to pay the bills are saying 2. Others are tending to 1.

Drat.

dspp

https://www.ft.com/content/bd63d562-6d1 ... bea055720b

This is the best guide I have read so far.

Our issue in our very small company is that our work has fallen off a cliff and there is no new work coming in. There is some ongoing work that means that we cannot shut the whole company down but will not need our one full time employee during the downturn caused by social distancing measures.

We were going to have to make that employee redundant and since they have only been with us for 6 months they had not statutory rights to a pay-off. We had agreed to let them go last week but pay them until the end of March. Now however we have furloughed them and hopefully at no cost to ourselves can pay them 80% 0f their salary. NI issues it seems have yet to be worked out.

So the issue quoted above as to what counts as an essential industry seems to me a red herring. If you can keep your business running, as long as it is not one of those on the proscribed list then as long as social distancing can be applied you can keep going.

However if the current situation (as in our case) means that in is not viable to keep going you can then make the business decision to shut down all all part of the business while furloughing the workers who will remain on 80% salary at no cost to the business.

John

redsturgeon wrote:So the issue quoted above as to what counts as an essential industry seems to me a red herring. If you can keep your business running, as long as it is not one of those on the proscribed list then as long as social distancing can be applied you can keep going.
John

I can assure you that in this respect Sturgeon is saying very different things than Johnson. This is creating real problems in companies with more than one or two workers.

dspp

Maybe the furlough aspect could continue on dspp's original Topic here:

80% salary payments ?
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