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Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby OldBoyReturns » August 25th, 2023, 5:07 pm

HL have now credited the voting fee as a separate later credit after market close.

OldBoyReturns wrote:BOI tender offer proceeds turned up in HL account about 5 minutes before market close. But whole lot credited to capital (ie no segregation of accrued interest element) and the 2p voting fee completely missed! I hope they managed top get the corporate action returns right ....

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby 2boi2 » August 25th, 2023, 5:19 pm

Still not showing in X-O (Jarvis). Not a good advert for them - unlike ii they don't pay interest on cash. So Jarvis get all the benefit of holding it. I cynically wonder if they planned to sit on the cash for a bank holiday weekend, or whether they are just genuinely slow..

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Zebedee71 » August 27th, 2023, 11:07 am

the BOI proceeds and bonus arrived into my II ISA so its the end of an era dating back to 2011 when first acquired in the low 40's. It became my third most profitable investment over that period (LLPF was 2nd, now also long term dead, with NWBD in a clear 1st place and still trucks on from first acquisition in early 2009)

I had thought II would try to delay the cash handover claiming some sort of admin issue, but good on them, they were swift and efficient in my case

When the next semi coercive tender (using a BOI type approach) arrives on the remaining banking paper goodness only knows - I doubt it will be long but of note is that as interest rates rise, the size of the prize to the issuers diminishes - BOI at > 13% was in a special place

good investing to all
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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Kr1ck » August 27th, 2023, 11:57 am

Not sure if interest rates have that much to do with it. I think that the fact they will cease to count as capital in 2025 is the driver for retiring this type of paper.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby 88V8 » August 27th, 2023, 3:12 pm

Zebedee71 wrote:When the next semi coercive tender (using a BOI type approach) arrives on the remaining banking paper goodness only knows - I doubt it will be long but of note is that as interest rates rise, the size of the prize to the issuers diminishes - BOI at > 13% was in a special place ...

Yes, but with prices sitting on the bottom the cost of repurchase by the issuer is minimised.
I am still loading up with GACA and AV.A, guessing that they may be next.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Kr1ck » August 29th, 2023, 9:17 pm

Has anyone with AJ Bell not been paid the voting fee? I know one person on this thread has been paid but I have been informed that they didn't receive the amount they were expecting from Bank of Ireland, hence I won't be paid (I did vote, this isn't in dispute). They say a query has been raised.
I'm a little put out since they have chosen to pay some people and not others. Surely they should have waited and resolved the matter?

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Laughton » August 30th, 2023, 10:00 am

iWeb credited correct amount yesterday PM.
Redemption and interest lumped together and voting fee shown separately.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Mrbond » August 30th, 2023, 2:21 pm

Could someone please post the amounts individually per 1000 nominal for

Redemption amount
Interest (coupon)
Voting fee (I voted yes)

I am with AJ Bell and have received £1920 per 1000 nominal

Much appreciated

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Laughton » August 30th, 2023, 3:01 pm

My calculator says you should have received £1,940.31 total per £1k Nominal made up as follows:

Redemption amount £1,880.00
Interest £40.31
Voting Fee £20

Assuming you are talking about BOI.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Mrbond » August 30th, 2023, 3:05 pm

AJ Bell have paid the redemption and interest on one lump.

No payment for voting fee so far

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby air04 » August 30th, 2023, 4:29 pm

I have received 1.92031 per bond as a lumpsum

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Laughton » August 30th, 2023, 6:02 pm

I have received 1.92031 per bond as a lumpsum


Suggest you ask them where your voting fee is (assuming you voted).

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Surerera » August 31st, 2023, 10:21 am

My main account is with AJ Bell who paid up for BOI on Friday, I also run a small joint account with my sister with Barclays, believe it or not they haven't credited my account with anything yet. Anyone else had that problem?

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby everhopeful » September 1st, 2023, 10:40 am

Yes! I rang Barclays yesterday and they confirmed that the transaction had been completed but that they have up to 10 days to credit my account with the cash.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby GoSeigen » September 1st, 2023, 10:43 am

everhopeful wrote:Yes! I rang Barclays yesterday and they confirmed that the transaction had been completed but that they have up to 10 days to credit my account with the cash.


I think they're jerking you around, or the person on the phone doesn't know what they're talking about. Your account should be credited the day of the corporate action or maybe a working day later. Anything less is very poor service and I'd complain and demand interest be paid.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby PeterGray » September 1st, 2023, 12:37 pm

I'd guess when they say they have "up to 10 days" to do the transaction that's the maximum they are allowed, not what they expect to take.

Barclays are always slow, rarely on the day of a dividend or payment, but mostly by the second day. Once in a while I have had ones that take a few days, but it's unusual. My BOI was all in ii so no idea how they are faring with this one.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Padders72 » September 1st, 2023, 1:46 pm

I see a lot of criticism of ii on this site, yet you only have to read a thread like this to realise than in general they do a better job than most.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby 88V8 » September 1st, 2023, 2:53 pm

Padders72 wrote:I see a lot of criticism of ii on this site, yet you only have to read a thread like this to realise than in general they do a better job than most.

I agree.
Their new website was a misstep, but their service is and always has been very good.

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Holts » September 1st, 2023, 5:54 pm

Padders72 wrote:I see a lot of criticism of ii on this site, yet you only have to read a thread like this to realise than in general they do a better job than most.



Their service is fine , the items they don’t trade in fixed interest terms is lousy and has become worse over the last year , I suggest when an opportunity arises that if they were to embrace this area more it would lead to a reasonable amount of business , but it’s almost like computer says no .

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Re: Tender offers Bristol & West prefs and BOI pibs

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Postby Alaric » September 1st, 2023, 7:10 pm

Holts wrote:I suggest when an opportunity arises that if they (ii) were to embrace this area more it would lead to a reasonable amount of business , but it’s almost like computer says no .


With CGT not being payable and low coupon Gilts now standing at a discount to par values, there is likely to be some interest from private investors seeking an alternative to fixed term deposits. For that matter high coupon issues may be of interest to income seekers. There's not very much available in Corporate Bonds either even though they have been known to feature such issues as IPOs.


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