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Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby swill453 » March 20th, 2025, 8:22 am

I note that the next payment date for VWRL, VHYL and possibly others is 2nd April, rather than the end of March as is previous years.

This is mildly irritating to me as it somewhat messes up my quarterly portfolio valuation, though it's not the end of the world.

Has there been any announcement I've missed that the dividend dates are changing going forward, or whether this is a one-off?

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby EthicsGradient » March 20th, 2025, 8:52 am

They issue their expected dates at the start of each year (in American format, annoyingly):

https://fund-docs.vanguard.com/etf-dist ... le-vam.pdf

For the quarterly payers, it's expected to be 2nd April, 2nd July, 1st Oct, 31st Dec.

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby swill453 » March 20th, 2025, 9:04 am

EthicsGradient wrote:They issue their expected dates at the start of each year (in American format, annoyingly):

https://fund-docs.vanguard.com/etf-dist ... le-vam.pdf

For the quarterly payers, it's expected to be 2nd April, 2nd July, 1st Oct, 31st Dec.

Thanks. Seems they don't care about messing up my spreadsheet :)

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby scrumpyjack » March 20th, 2025, 9:15 am

They usually have the same dates as the Ishares ETFs but Ishares has stuck with March payment dates this time.

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby DrFfybes » March 20th, 2025, 12:47 pm

swill453 wrote:
EthicsGradient wrote:They issue their expected dates at the start of each year (in American format, annoyingly):

https://fund-docs.vanguard.com/etf-dist ... le-vam.pdf

For the quarterly payers, it's expected to be 2nd April, 2nd July, 1st Oct, 31st Dec.

Thanks. Seems they don't care about messing up my spreadsheet :)

Scott.


Just change your quarter to end on 5th April instead of 31 March.

Makes a whole host of things simpler, especially if you invest in companies that pay unsheltered dividends on the 2nd April :)

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby swill453 » March 20th, 2025, 12:56 pm

DrFfybes wrote:
swill453 wrote:Thanks. Seems they don't care about messing up my spreadsheet :)


Just change your quarter to end on 5th April instead of 31 March.

Makes a whole host of things simpler, especially if you invest in companies that pay unsheltered dividends on the 2nd April :)

Yeah but I've also been tracking monthly dividend income for the last 16 years and gauging its growth year on year, so it won't fix that.

I'll just fiddle the books and show it as income on 31st March.

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby DrFfybes » March 20th, 2025, 2:15 pm

swill453 wrote:
DrFfybes wrote:
Just change your quarter to end on 5th April instead of 31 March.

Makes a whole host of things simpler, especially if you invest in companies that pay unsheltered dividends on the 2nd April :)

Yeah but I've also been tracking monthly dividend income for the last 16 years and gauging its growth year on year, so it won't fix that.

I'll just fiddle the books and show it as income on 31st March.

Scott.


Spoken like a proper engineer :)

Out of interest, do you make investment deicsions/adjustments on the data you are harvesting or is it mainly for personal edification?

I used to, but once I realised the total was "sufficient" I gave up on the exercise.

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby Lootman » March 20th, 2025, 2:22 pm

DrFfybes wrote:
swill453 wrote:Yeah but I've also been tracking monthly dividend income for the last 16 years and gauging its growth year on year, so it won't fix that.

I'll just fiddle the books and show it as income on 31st March.

do you make investment deicsions/adjustments on the data you are harvesting or is it mainly for personal edification?

I used to, but once I realised the total was "sufficient" I gave up on the exercise.

I also never look at dividends but then again income is not a focus of my investing.

In fact I do not have any spreadsheets at all. My broker provides all the information I need on its "Holdings" page, including cost basis, market value, daily change. I can drill down to individual transactions there if I wish.

There does seem to be some gaming done with dividend payments around the date of the change of the tax year. But personally I don't care.

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby GeoffF100 » March 20th, 2025, 3:49 pm

Lootman wrote:My broker provides all the information I need on its "Holdings" page, including cost basis, market value, daily change. I can drill down to individual transactions there if I wish.

My brokers are rubbish for tracking my investments. iWeb never valued my index linked gilts correctly. HL does, but only on their quarterly statements. Vanguard, iWeb and HL all have different end dates for their quarterly statements. I maintain spread sheets for a consolidated view of my investments (numbers of shares, valuations etc), capital gains, income, and expenditure. I find it easiest to maintain a contemporaneous record. A diary of important financial transactions is particularly useful.

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby swill453 » March 20th, 2025, 4:23 pm

DrFfybes wrote:Out of interest, do you make investment deicsions/adjustments on the data you are harvesting or is it mainly for personal edification?

I used to, but once I realised the total was "sufficient" I gave up on the exercise.

It's been "enough" for a long time, but it's a hard habit to break. It's reassuring to see the rolling 12 month income ticking relentlessly upwards.

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby kempiejon » March 21st, 2025, 3:26 pm

I was trawling through my income records and since 2016 my Vanguard and iShares paid out in January 6 times compared to 4 times in December. Ish in one year they have not come in the same month. The vagaries of broker delivery of dividends I think I have accounted for.

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby swill453 » March 21st, 2025, 5:01 pm

kempiejon wrote:I was trawling through my income records and since 2016 my Vanguard and iShares paid out in January 6 times compared to 4 times in December. Ish in one year they have not come in the same month. The vagaries of broker delivery of dividends I think I have accounted for.

Yes usually the payment date has been end December, but because it's not sterling denominated it sometimes appears one working day later.

I'm not aware of payment dates being at the start of the month (but I haven't exhaustively back-checked).

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Re: Vanguard ETF dividend dates

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Postby Arborbridge » April 29th, 2025, 7:56 pm

swill453 wrote:
DrFfybes wrote:
Just change your quarter to end on 5th April instead of 31 March.

Makes a whole host of things simpler, especially if you invest in companies that pay unsheltered dividends on the 2nd April :)

Yeah but I've also been tracking monthly dividend income for the last 16 years and gauging its growth year on year, so it won't fix that.

I'll just fiddle the books and show it as income on 31st March.

Scott.


When this happens, particularly at the end of a quarter, I book it in the same quarter as previous years with a note in the adjacent column. That makes sense if like me you are after LFL comparisons.
The spreadsheet won't be offended, and I'm sure it won't "tell" on you :)


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