In a supermarket car park?

[swill453]

Are you sure ?

Is your car insured on your driveway?

Scott.

[Dod101]

I also drive a Q5 and there is nothing 'fat blob' about it. It is a neat little SUV and is the easiest thing in the world to park. I must say the parking gizmos help but frankly I lived for a while in South Ken and if you could not get into a parking space about 6/9 inches longer than your car you would never ever find a parking space.

Dod

I'm seriously impressed you can get a Q5 into a space only 0.6666666" (recurring) longer than the car itself.

I did not say that quite and there might have been a bit of exaggeration but not much. It was accepted by all that in reversing into a parking space you kept going until you touched the bumper of the car behind and of course at that point the rear nearside tyre had to be well nigh at the kerb. In these days my company car was a BMW 5 series circa 1990.

It did teach any driver very quickly how (or not) to park in a tight space.

Dod

[Dod101]

I also drive a Q5 and there is nothing 'fat blob' about it.

If you own one then then it seems reasonable that is what you think.

It is a neat little SUV and is the easiest thing in the world to park.

Then all the people who own them where I live clearly must be the worst drivers in the world.

It is actually very easy to park with an excellent turning circle and great power steering.

Dod

[richlist]

Are you sure ?

Is your car insured on your driveway?

Scott.

I'll take that as meaning you are sure.

[didds]

if they werent, and a driver killed a pedestrian... should the family of said pedstrian not gain some compensation (lost bread winner etc) purely becasue insurance was null and void on private land and the driver may have absolutely no assets woth anything very kuch at all?

That's what Ive always understood to be the case?

didds

PS I appreciate £££ isnt much help when youve lost a family member but ist typically how our system works ...

[dealtn]

Are you sure ?

Is your car insured on your driveway?

Scott.

I'll take that as meaning you are sure.

Why do you think they might not be? I have been paid out on car insurance for an incident on private land.

[bungeejumper]

It was accepted by all that in reversing into a parking space you kept going until you touched the bumper of the car behind and of course at that point the rear nearside tyre had to be well nigh at the kerb. In these days my company car was a BMW 5 series circa 1990.

It did teach any driver very quickly how (or not) to park in a tight space.

Aah, Italian parking. My wife was just about to get out of her car, in Bristol circa 2010, when another car thudded into her rear bumper, hard enough to jolt her forward even though her handbrake was on. She got out to express her annoyance, and ran straight into a torrent of stuff about how women didn't understand what bumpers were for, etc, etc. Nothing she could do but note down his number.

Personally, I get close enough and listen out for the parking sensors. Or, in my present car, check the reversing camera. It's noticeable, though, that the worst gung-ho parking offenders on our local school run are all driving large SUVs. They seem to have succeeded the old Volvo estates as the preferred weapons of people who bash into things a lot but don't want to suffer the consequences.

BTW, since when has 15.5 feet x 6.1 feet been a neat little car? That's nearly the size of my old Passat estate!

BJ

[Dod101]

It was accepted by all that in reversing into a parking space you kept going until you touched the bumper of the car behind and of course at that point the rear nearside tyre had to be well nigh at the kerb. In these days my company car was a BMW 5 series circa 1990.

It did teach any driver very quickly how (or not) to park in a tight space.

Aah, Italian parking. My wife was just about to get out of her car, in Bristol circa 2010, when another car thudded into her rear bumper, hard enough to jolt her forward even though her handbrake was on. She got out to express her annoyance, and ran straight into a torrent of stuff about how women didn't understand what bumpers were for, etc, etc. Nothing she could do but note down his number.

Personally, I get close enough and listen out for the parking sensors. Or, in my present car, check the reversing camera. It's noticeable, though, that the worst gung-ho parking offenders on our local school run are all driving large SUVs. They seem to have succeeded the old Volvo estates as the preferred weapons of people who bash into things a lot but don't want to suffer the consequences.

BTW, since when has 15.5 feet x 6.1 feet been a neat little car? That's nearly the size of my old Passat estate!

BJ

Indeed, I used to have an old Passat estate as a second car some years ago. They seemed to go on for ever (in more than one sense I suppose)

If that is the dimensions of the current Q5 it does not sound like a neat little car. Sitting in the driving seat though it does not feel very big and is a very easy vehicle to drive and to park. The Q7 on the other hand looks like a tank. I have never driven one. Must see if the dealer will give me a test drive.

Anyway, going back to the original story, that was a rather expensive prang. Not the sort of thing one would expect in a supermarket car park.

Dod

[swill453]

If that is the dimensions of the current Q5 it does not sound like a neat little car. Sitting in the driving seat though it does not feel very big and is a very easy vehicle to drive and to park. The Q7 on the other hand looks like a tank. I have never driven one. Must see if the dealer will give me a test drive.

The Q5 is based on the same chassis as the Audi A4 and A5, so is described as "compact" only in the way the US classify cars. We'd probably call that a family car or something.

I find even standing next to a Q3 it looks pretty big to me, then I realise there's a Q4, Q5, Q6, Q7, Q8 and Q9.

(Some don't actually exist yet, but will).

Scott.

[sg31]

As an ex insurance underwriter I can confirm a car is insured on a driveway and a supermarket car park.

[Redmires]

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I find even standing next to a Q3 it looks pretty big to me, then I realise there's a Q4, Q5, Q6, Q7, Q8 and Q9.

Scott.

The Germans being influenced by Spike Milligan, no doubt.

[richlist]

The driver of the Audi would have benefited from having a car with an auto park function.....it takes all the guesswork and skill out of the drivers hands.

I guess the additional cost of an auto park option would be cheaper than his excess &/or the loss of NCB.

[Dod101]

If you can prove you have used auto park does that absolve the owner from liability if something like this incident happens? I have never had auto park and doubt that I ever will but it would be interesting to know.#

Dod

[bungeejumper]

If you can prove you have used auto park does that absolve the owner from liability if something like this incident happens?

Hmmm, who else is going to pay if your car has driven all over somebody else's car?

I think the self-driving car developers are battling with the liability issues right now, and AFAIK the insurance responsibility still rests with the person in control of the command buttons.

Anyway, let's just be thankful that it was only a car that got killed.

BJ

[AF62]

If you can prove you have used auto park does that absolve the owner from liability if something like this incident happens? I have never had auto park and doubt that I ever will but it would be interesting to know.#

Dod

Doesn’t auto park still require the driver to press the accelerator even though the car takes care of the steering.

[bungeejumper]

Doesn’t auto park still require the driver to press the accelerator even though the car takes care of the steering.

Probably depends on the local laws. As I understand it, US laws (in some states, anyway) allow the driver to get out of the car before it parks itself. Maybe somebody can confirm that?

BJ

[DrFfybes]

Are you sure ?

If he isn't, I am.

I've also seen DVLA clamping vehicles in Park and Ride sites in Devon.

Paul