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Fitting HID bulbs

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Fitting HID bulbs

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Postby MonsterMork » June 28th, 2021, 2:08 pm

Not sure if I have mentioned this one before but if you fit HID bulbs into a non-HID headlight then that is illegal and an MoT failure, summat I reckon one or two people here may have found :(

Details, reasoning and links to relevant statutary legislation can be found here courtesy of DVSA:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -headlamps

The MoT manual is here in section 4.1.4:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspect ... tion-4-1-4

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Re: Fitting HID bulbs

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Postby 88V8 » June 28th, 2021, 3:46 pm

I've fitted LED bulbs to two of my four heads.
They're pretty bright/antisocial, but when driving at night it just feels like keeping up with the Joneses.
And the car is 1963 so it wouldn't be a 'fail' anyway, which seems illogical.
Another attraction on that car was the much lower current draw.

The particular bulbs I used have the light emitters in the same place as halogens, so the beam pattern is the same, but more so.

I vaguely thought HIDs could only be fitted to cars with self-levelling suspension, regardless of the lamp units.

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Re: Fitting HID bulbs

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Postby MonsterMork » June 29th, 2021, 8:00 am

88V8 wrote:They're pretty bright/antisocial, but when driving at night it just feels like keeping up with the Joneses.

I vaguely thought HIDs could only be fitted to cars with self-levelling suspension, regardless of the lamp units.

V8



Compared to the standard issue Land Rover glow worms anything would seem bright! :lol: Those who have never suffered night-time driving in Solihull's finest will not understand :shock:

Nope, nowt to do with self -levelling suspension, or any other suspension variety for that matter.

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Re: Fitting HID bulbs

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Postby DrFfybes » June 29th, 2021, 9:35 am

MonsterMork wrote:
88V8 wrote:They're pretty bright/antisocial, but when driving at night it just feels like keeping up with the Joneses.

I vaguely thought HIDs could only be fitted to cars with self-levelling suspension, regardless of the lamp units.

V8



Compared to the standard issue Land Rover glow worms anything would seem bright! :lol: Those who have never suffered night-time driving in Solihull's finest will not understand :shock:

Nope, nowt to do with self -levelling suspension, or any other suspension variety for that matter.

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Do HIDs still require headlight washers?

And I thought Landy headlights were there to enable the Allies to see you coming whilst not ruining your night vision for scanning the distance.

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Re: Fitting HID bulbs

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Postby MonsterMork » June 29th, 2021, 11:49 am

DrFfybes wrote:
Do HIDs still require headlight washers?

And I thought Landy headlights were there to enable the Allies to see you coming whilst not ruining your night vision for scanning the distance.

:)



There is no requirement for them that I am aware of in the Construction And Use regulations. Normal halogen type headlamps are just a minor (advisory) if washers don't work, however LED and HID headlamps do require working headlamp washers if fitted to vehicles first used after 1 September 2009, section 4.1.6 of the manual:

4.1.6. Headlamp cleaning devices

You must inspect vehicles first used on or after 1 September 2009 equipped with headlamp washers.

You can identify HID headlamps from:

‘DCR’ mark on the headlamp lens or body
an igniter module or inverter behind the headlamp
taking a few seconds to reach full intensity
a bluish tinge to the light

HID headlamps use high voltage. You should take care when inspecting these headlamps.
Defect Category
(a) Headlamp cleaning device:

(i) inoperative Minor
(ii) inoperative in the case of LED or gas discharge systems (HID) Major


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Land Rover headlamps are designed to allow our allies to identify "friend or foe" :D

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