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Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby AF62 » March 25th, 2022, 11:47 am

Dod101 wrote:
Hallucigenia wrote:No need to look at limited anecdote when you have ONS stats available.

Average annual mileage in 2019 was 7,400miles - down from 9,200 in 2002. So 142 miles (230km) per week. If you say that the average UK car has fuel consumption similar to the average new car 7 years ago, that's 5.4 litres per 100km (53mpg). So on average a car gets through 12.3 litres per week, and has a fuel tank of maybe 50 litres?

So the average UK car fills up once every 4 weeks, but obviously there's huge variation in that.

It's interesting to see how improving fuel efficiency and less driving per car has halved consumption per car over the last 20 years - the average car would have been doing 285km/week at a fuel consumption of 8.3l/100km (34mpg) for 23.6 litres per week.


These are interesting figures. Presumably the 53 MPG is mostly diesel. My petrol car gets no where near that, but interestingly my annual mileage has been about the average of 7,000 or so for the last couple of years, but will probably rise a bit this year.

Dod


The 5.4 litres per 100km is for petrol cars, diesels are 5.0, but they are the imaginary MPG figures published by manufacturers - https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... tFjXvWOlli

"These figures are obtained under consistent, carefully controlled laboratory conditions and do not refect external factors such as cold starts, differing driving conditions, different loads, carried, etc."

These are the MPG figures obtained when you have 'heat soaked' the car at 25c overnight and then driven it on a rolling road on a set but very unrealistic course with virtually no acceleration - and that is assuming you haven't bought a VW who has done something 'clever' with the car's systems to produce a better result.

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby Hallucigenia » March 25th, 2022, 12:07 pm

Dod101 wrote:Presumably the 53 MPG is mostly diesel.


It's pretty typical of the basic petrol models of top-selling cars like the Fiesta and Corsa these days.

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby AF62 » March 25th, 2022, 12:17 pm

Hallucigenia wrote:
Dod101 wrote:Presumably the 53 MPG is mostly diesel.


It's pretty typical of the basic petrol models of top-selling cars like the Fiesta and Corsa these days.


Although owners find the real MPG to be somewhat different to the manufacturer's figures - https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/fo ... ctive-2018 and https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/va ... corsa-2014

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby pje16 » March 28th, 2022, 1:53 pm

Not much ...but in the right direction
Oil price futures have dropped by 4%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60896794

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby stooz » April 6th, 2022, 7:44 pm

Well I dont know what its like elsewhere but all 3 station in my town are now empty. and the prices are as high as ever.

probably a cross of the russian supplies and the blockages of the ports by protestors.

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby AF62 » April 8th, 2022, 11:37 pm

stooz wrote:Well I dont know what its like elsewhere but all 3 station in my town are now empty. and the prices are as high as ever.


Similar around here. Tesco had super-unleaded but nothing else, another had ordinary unleaded but nothing else, and every day there are people pleading on Facebook for information about where they can find diesel or people reporting a tanker has been spotted.

Meanwhile the gaps are reappearing on supermarket shelves again.

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby DrFfybes » April 9th, 2022, 9:15 am

Not really noticed gaps on the shelves, but definitely supply issues arising with fuel. Sainsbury's lady admitted their deliveries are haing problems, but blamed it on protestors. Other supermarkets had long queues.

Strange that when E10 came in I was concerned about how easy it would be to get SUL for the 2 of our vehicles that require it (a lot of places don't stock it either due to insufficient tanks and apparently a licencing issue), on Sunday it was the only thing available.

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby Mike4 » April 9th, 2022, 10:01 am

Yes I was rather caught out yesterday when I tried to buy diesel in Reading yesterday. Five fuel stations later, all having none in stock and I was down to 19 miles left according to the dashboard display.

So I picked a station five miles out of town with a reputation for expensive fuel and bingo, diesel in the pumps and on sale! Not even that pricey at £1.76 a litre. No queue either although the forecourt was very busy. £130 for a tankful though...

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby redsturgeon » April 9th, 2022, 11:18 am

Mike4 wrote:Not even that pricey at £1.76 a litre.


A year ago who ever thought that phrase would make sense in April 2022?

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby redsturgeon » April 9th, 2022, 11:35 am

I filled up with diesel yesterday morning at 10.00 at our local Sainsburys, £99 for a tank full. My favourite cashier said that she had been so busy that morning and they would run out later that day. Sure enough later that afternoon they had run out.

Could be the pre Easter rush with people travelling across the UK Friday and Saturday. I have a trip to Heathrow up and down the M3 in an hour or so, fingers crossed that it is not too crazy with holiday traffic.

John

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby swill453 » April 9th, 2022, 12:19 pm

redsturgeon wrote:
Mike4 wrote:Not even that pricey at £1.76 a litre.

A year ago who ever thought that phrase would make sense in April 2022?

But when diesel was nearly £1.50 in 2012 it wouldn't have surprised anyone that it would get there 10 years later...

Scott.

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby Mike4 » April 9th, 2022, 12:31 pm

swill453 wrote:
redsturgeon wrote:
Mike4 wrote:Not even that pricey at £1.76 a litre.

A year ago who ever thought that phrase would make sense in April 2022?

But when diesel was nearly £1.50 in 2012 it wouldn't have surprised anyone that it would get there 10 years later...

Scott.


During the tanker driver crisis (Jan was it?) I paid £1.50 a litre at Newbury M4 services, and thought that a monstrously gouging price.

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby scrumpyjack » April 9th, 2022, 12:35 pm

Just put 2200 litres in my oil tank - 83p a litre. Last year I managed to fill it at 20p!

Costing more to charge the BEV too :o

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby bungeejumper » April 10th, 2022, 9:25 am

Finally managed to fill the wife's car with diesel this morning, at our local pumps. It was running on fumes. The guy at the till said that he was down to one day's stock, because he couldn't get deliveries. It wasn't down to panic buying, or even to fears of rising oil prices. It was because the Just Stop Oil protesters had broken into the depot and slashed the tyres of the tankers.

Intelligent strategy, guys, and so kind of you to think of us all. Next week you'll be complaining that you can't buy a pint of milk in the shops. :|

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby CliffEdge » April 10th, 2022, 9:53 am

bungeejumper wrote:Finally managed to fill the wife's car with diesel this morning, at our local pumps. It was running on fumes. The guy at the till said that he was down to one day's stock, because he couldn't get deliveries. It wasn't down to panic buying, or even to fears of rising oil prices. It was because the Just Stop Oil protesters had broken into the depot and slashed the tyres of the tankers.

Intelligent strategy, guys, and so kind of you to think of us all. Next week you'll be complaining that you can't buy a pint of milk in the shops. :|

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby Dod101 » April 10th, 2022, 9:57 am

scrumpyjack wrote:Just put 2200 litres in my oil tank - 83p a litre. Last year I managed to fill it at 20p!

Costing more to charge the BEV too :o


On 8 March I paid 70p for 1000 litres. I thought that was expensive so only 1000 hoping that when I next need to buy more the price will have dropped!
That 1000 will keep me going until September/October with a bit of luck. And it was only less than 18 months ago that I was paying 29p

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby Hallucigenia » April 10th, 2022, 10:34 am

bungeejumper wrote:Next week you'll be complaining that you can't buy a pint of milk in the shops. :|


How are we meant to go down the shops to buy some insulation?

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby 88V8 » April 10th, 2022, 11:03 am

Dod101 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:Just put 2200 litres in my oil tank - 83p a litre. Last year I managed to fill it at 20p!

On 8 March I paid 70p for 1000 litres. I thought that was expensive so only 1000 hoping that when I next need to buy more the price will have dropped!

Our wood hasn't gone up.
Now there's a thought.... a wood-powered car.. oh yes...https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html

V8

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby Mike4 » April 10th, 2022, 12:33 pm

Dod101 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:Just put 2200 litres in my oil tank - 83p a litre. Last year I managed to fill it at 20p!

Costing more to charge the BEV too :o


On 8 March I paid 70p for 1000 litres. I thought that was expensive so only 1000 hoping that when I next need to buy more the price will have dropped!
That 1000 will keep me going until September/October with a bit of luck. And it was only less than 18 months ago that I was paying 29p

Dod


I've just checked too and I paid 26p a litre on 19/10/20, then on 7/2/22, 66p a litre.

I get through about 1,500 litres a year and I don't try to economise in any way. I'm expecting the 500 litres I bought in Feb to last me until September too, so I'd guess my hovel is a lot smaller than yours!

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Re: Petrol and diesel prices reach new record high

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Postby Dod101 » April 10th, 2022, 12:40 pm

88V8 wrote:
Dod101 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:Just put 2200 litres in my oil tank - 83p a litre. Last year I managed to fill it at 20p!

On 8 March I paid 70p for 1000 litres. I thought that was expensive so only 1000 hoping that when I next need to buy more the price will have dropped!

Our wood hasn't gone up.
Now there's a thought.... a wood-powered car.. oh yes...https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html

V8


I have just bought enough logs to keep me going next winter until about Christmas, The supplier is selling his current stock at this last winter's prices but tells me that it will inevitably increase in the autumn.

Dod


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