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Prince. just a reminder of what a performer he was.

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Prince. just a reminder of what a performer he was.

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Postby nimnarb » July 9th, 2024, 1:57 am

Haven't seen this for a while and thought this deserves to be shown. As mentioned, in one of the comments, but I have always remembered this. When Clapton was once asked, what it was like to be the greatest guitarist in the World, he said, I have no idea, ask Prince.

Slick, brilliant, and such a professional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNrAFb3I2js

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Re: Prince. just a reminder of what a performer he was.

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Postby Laughton » July 9th, 2024, 11:09 am

One of my favourites. You need to wait a while but worth it:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWRCooFKk3c

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Re: Prince. just a reminder of what a performer he was.

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Postby simoan » July 9th, 2024, 11:51 am

nimnarb wrote:Haven't seen this for a while and thought this deserves to be shown. As mentioned, in one of the comments, but I have always remembered this. When Clapton was once asked, what it was like to be the greatest guitarist in the World, he said, I have no idea, ask Prince.

Slick, brilliant, and such a professional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNrAFb3I2js

Are you a guitarist? I used to play and get excited about this kind of stuff when I was much younger. However, I now find such fast and loud playing boring. It's actually surprisingly easy when you have loads of distortion and sustain to sound like a guitar god. IMHO the best players know when to hold back and leave space rather than playing a million notes a second. I think Clapton is a really good example of that. FWLIW my favourite ever guitar solo is Larry Carlton's in Steely Dan's Kid Charlemagne.

All the best, Si

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Postby kiloran » July 9th, 2024, 12:03 pm

nimnarb wrote:Haven't seen this for a while and thought this deserves to be shown. As mentioned, in one of the comments, but I have always remembered this. When Clapton was once asked, what it was like to be the greatest guitarist in the World, he said, I have no idea, ask Prince.

Slick, brilliant, and such a professional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNrAFb3I2js

The quote may not be true: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric- ... ut-prince/

--kiloran

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Postby kempiejon » July 9th, 2024, 1:46 pm

There's that joke about Slowhand, St Peter and God.
Then I found this one.
I hate it when people compare Eric Clapton to God. I mean, he's cool and all . . . but he's no Eric Clapton!


I saw a televised Prince concert in the early 80s, I think it was the 1999 tour but a quick peer on youtube didn't convince me that was necessarily right, perhaps Purple Rain. His playing was good but it was his stage presence and use of the space and the set, the costumes and the other performers. It really changed my opinion of him as a pop product, I heard the single Little Red Corvette which I liked and why I gave his show a watch, watching that concert was bit of a revelation on performance and production. I had, uncharacteristically for me, a soft spot for the popster imp but lost interest a handful of albums later. By the time he'd become a symbol or TAFKAP I was listening elsewhere.


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Postby bluedonkey » July 9th, 2024, 3:34 pm

Joe Pass was pretty good.

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Postby Stompa » July 9th, 2024, 3:44 pm

simoan wrote:FWLIW my favourite ever guitar solo is Larry Carlton's in Steely Dan's Kid Charlemagne.

Larry Carlton is a staggeringly good guitarist (along with Lee Ritenour). Personally I prefer his version of Layla to the original.

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Postby simoan » July 9th, 2024, 4:20 pm

Stompa wrote:
simoan wrote:FWLIW my favourite ever guitar solo is Larry Carlton's in Steely Dan's Kid Charlemagne.

Larry Carlton is a staggeringly good guitarist (along with Lee Ritenour). Personally I prefer his version of Layla to the original.

I agree. Did some great session work with Steely Dan and Joni Mitchell. I guess most people only know him from the theme to Hill Street Blues though. The tone he gets from his 335 is extraordinary. I relistened to Kid Charlemagne after posting and all the playing on it is amazing, the rhythm section in particular. What I particularly like about the guitar solo is how it so effortlessly glides across the key change.

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Postby nimnarb » July 9th, 2024, 10:17 pm

When I first saw this riff by Chuck Berry, I saved up for a guitar, took a few months but started me off. Parents were delighted, as originally had a drum set, which due to the apparent awful noise I made, which at that time was more the art of learning the snare drums than anything else, I sold the drum set (think it was only one or two drums at the time anyway) and the balance purchased my first guitar, wish I could remember what it was................

Also had a violin and I know that my playing was worse than hearing a scalded cat,(I was 7!!) but did well for some reason a few years later with a huge bass euphonium(bigger than me) and played in the school band, but guitar always been my real love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ROwVrF0Ceg

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Postby bungeejumper » July 10th, 2024, 9:35 am

nimnarb wrote:When I first saw this riff by Chuck Berry, I saved up for a guitar, took a few months but started me off.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ROwVrF0Ceg

Nice. My favourite version of that song was Johnny Winter's 1969 version, with that soaring slide guitar. Heard him playing it at the Royal Albert Hall, with brother Edgar on bass, sax and just about everything else for that matter, and I never saw a classical concert hall rocking quite like that. (I've seen quite a few.)

Best stage recording is probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j4rrMqCHCk from 1970. (Ignore the 15 second false start, which apparently wasn't fast enough for the man.) He was still performing the song 45 years later, but sadly the drugs had long since burned him out. Tragic. :(

BJ

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Postby servodude » July 10th, 2024, 1:42 pm

simoan wrote:
Stompa wrote:Larry Carlton is a staggeringly good guitarist (along with Lee Ritenour). Personally I prefer his version of Layla to the original.

I agree. Did some great session work with Steely Dan and Joni Mitchell. I guess most people only know him from the theme to Hill Street Blues though. The tone he gets from his 335 is extraordinary. I relistened to Kid Charlemagne after posting and all the playing on it is amazing, the rhythm section in particular. What I particularly like about the guitar solo is how it so effortlessly glides across the key change.


Kid Charlemagne is special - really special.
It's a great solo, catching and accentuating the changes brilliantly in a song that is sufficiently harmonically interesting that it's amazing it became as popular as it did.
I recently watched a 17 year old kid perform it for his high school musical performance - and he did it perfectly; not sure if he "got" why it was played the way it was.. but that wasn't the job put in front of him; nice to see the tasteful side of fusion having fans among the next generation.
It's probably enough to convince me to get something along the lines of a 335... but having been on a Glen Campbell/ surf binge recently I got a baritone electric last week ;)

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Postby nimnarb » July 10th, 2024, 3:29 pm

We have gone off the subject a bit, but Flamenco is or was my true passion and in my youth was in Spain a lot and actually saw many of the greats live. Learnt flamenco in its purest hypnotic form, plus dance, and still can play the castanets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRgR-tZEpk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCiWTRg-itY

this second video above speed up to 2 minutes 50

Finally, I tried many times to get to this speed, no way. And now fingers just don't work as they should. But and albeit one has to understand the Spanish Culture and history re flamenco, it is truly an art form to play it well, as not forgiving and one note missed at speed, is not covered up well.

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... W49O0,st:0


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