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BBC licence fee for 75+

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Re: BBC licence fee for 75+

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Postby swill453 » July 10th, 2020, 6:55 pm

richfool wrote:Me too, particularly when he tries to tell us which way we should vote re Brexit!

As far as I can see he keeps sensible comment like that to private channels like Twitter.

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Re: BBC licence fee for 75+

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Postby richfool » July 10th, 2020, 7:15 pm

swill453 wrote:
richfool wrote:Me too, particularly when he tries to tell us which way we should vote re Brexit!

As far as I can see he keeps sensible comment like that to private channels like Twitter.

Scott.

I don't use twitter, so must have seen it somewhere else, but it got plenty of coverage. Not sensible, even if one works for the biased BBC.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44957901
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... ines-anti/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6867440/g ... -football/
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/did ... on-brexit-

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Postby 1nvest » July 10th, 2020, 10:44 pm

JohnB wrote:Britbox does not require a tv license, so could be attractive if you are happy to wait for content. And its tempting to cycle through the subscriptions having a few months of each

Created by BBC and ITV and can contain some live/BBC content for which a licence is required. I suspect if you did trigger a licence required show download then the BBC would have the evidence that you were watching such content without a licence.

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Re: BBC licence fee for 75+

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Postby swill453 » July 10th, 2020, 11:15 pm

1nvest wrote:
JohnB wrote:Britbox does not require a tv license, so could be attractive if you are happy to wait for content. And its tempting to cycle through the subscriptions having a few months of each

Created by BBC and ITV and can contain some live/BBC content for which a licence is required. I suspect if you did trigger a licence required show download then the BBC would have the evidence that you were watching such content without a licence.

Nope, no licence required for watching any content on Britbox.

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Postby Alaric » July 10th, 2020, 11:18 pm

swill453 wrote:Nope, no licence required for watching any content on Britbox.


Having paid for the content once through the licence, you then have to pay again by a Britbox sub.

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Postby JohnB » July 10th, 2020, 11:23 pm

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ104 does not mention Britbox explicitly, but I think it falls in the subscription service category

Do I need a TV Licence to watch subscription services like Netflix, Amazon or Now TV?
You don’t need a TV Licence if you only ever use these services to watch on demand or catch up programmes except if you’re watching BBC programmes on iPlayer.

Remember, if you watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel or TV service, or download or watch any BBC programmes on iPlayer, you need to be covered by a TV Licence.


I don't have a problem with Britbox charging, its no different to buying a DVD. My key hope is that they will put in obscure stuff from the back catalog for long periods, rather than keep cycling through recent and populist stuff.

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Postby 1nvest » July 11th, 2020, 12:27 am

swill453 wrote:Nope, no licence required for watching any content on Britbox

But doesn't Britbox include some BBC content? Given that its a BBC/ITV co-service I would have thought so? No real idea how detector vans work, but guess that parking outside a living room window and measuring the light variations emanating from that window reveals a indication of what TV channel/programme is being viewed. BBC nature programme perhaps about volcanoes and the scene cuts to a big red lava flow and your curtains glow red ... type of processing. But more sophisticated where particular sequences of light pattern over a period of time identifies more precisely a particular show/broadcast. AFAIK the law favours the BBC i.e. its for you to prove you didn't watch their content rather than them actually having to prove you did.

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Postby JohnB » July 11th, 2020, 5:02 am

Its not to do with BBC content, its to do with whether its a live broadcast, and the law was changed to include Iplayer because it does them. Britbox does not do live broadcasts, and even if it did it would need another law change to include it. Have a look at the tv licencing website. Its clear, though it should be updated to mention Britbox

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Re: BBC licence fee for 75+

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Postby swill453 » July 11th, 2020, 6:19 am

1nvest wrote:
swill453 wrote:Nope, no licence required for watching any content on Britbox

But doesn't Britbox include some BBC content?

Yes but that doesn't make it licensable. In the same way that Netflix also shows BBC content, but you don't need a licence for that either.

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Postby richfool » July 11th, 2020, 9:51 am

I could cope without watching the BBC and live TV., but the risk to me is inadvertently watching something like Bloomberg on my Samsung smartphone (that might require a TV licence).

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Postby marronier » July 11th, 2020, 10:37 am

A TV licence for anyone in this age of digital technology is an anachronism when the output could provided through satellite , cable or internet means on subscription , then one could only watch that for which one paid .

After all , you wouldn't be happy to pay tobacco tax as a non-smoker , alcohol tax as a teetotaller or fuel tax as a non driver. Or perhaps you would , given the cost of COVID-19.


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