cri du cœur

[GrahamPlatt]

The Guardian website has a comments section for many of its articles. But not all.
It’s ones like this https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... exit-shock that never seem to carry them. Those where I want to scream out “Then you should’ve thought on a bit, back in 2016, shouldn’t you!” Of course, the people affected may not have voted Leave. But I need to release the anger somewhere.

[bungeejumper]

Time to stock up, methinks. Strike while the iron's still tepid. Before the tariffs double the prices, or the Dutch decide to sell them to somebody more deserving instead.

For a start, I could do with a few boxes of petunias and some houseplants for the spare bedroom. I reckon there's probably enough spare space in the freezer to keep them until at least.... oh, hang on.

BJ

[marronier]

I don't see a problem here. A packet of seeds , seed compost and a propagator and you can have ten times more plants per variety at half the price.

[bungeejumper]

I don't see a problem here. A packet of seeds , seed compost and a propagator and you can have ten times more plants per variety at half the price.

And all you have to do is wait for six months, or maybe twelve or fifteen. And remember not to order flowers for the wife's birthday.

I jest, of course. If Brexit adds 10% of new cost to a £5 billion industry, the oldsters and the middle classes will find a way to afford it somehow. Plants are pleasant, but they're not daily-critical.

Unlike financial services, which will also lose their European passports in January. And which aren't sexy at all. Any more, and I'll get shunted off to Polite Discussions. But I fear we ain't seen nothing yet....

BJ

[Mike4]

I don't see a problem here. A packet of seeds , seed compost and a propagator and you can have ten times more plants per variety at half the price.

Yeahbut have you SEEN the price of seeds?

And seeds too will be going up to £25 each.....

[quelquod]

I don't see a problem here. A packet of seeds , seed compost and a propagator and you can have ten times more plants per variety at half the price.

Yeahbut have you SEEN the price of seeds?

Not just the price of seeds but the miserly quantities. A few years ago I could easily fill half a dozen seed trays of pricked-out Marigolds from a single packet of seed, and this year from one of the packets I obtained only 27 viable seeds, a tiny fraction of that obtainable from a single seed head.

[AleisterCrowley]

It's cri de cœur

Please, my eyes are bleeding

[GrahamPlatt]

It's cri de cœur

Please, my eyes are bleeding

Normalement, souvent, mais pas toujours...

https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/cri

4. Voix intérieure puissante, traduisant spontanément une opinion sincère, un élan de l'âme. Cri du cœur, de mort. Des hommes assez infortunés pour étouffer le cri de la conscience (Chateaubr., Génie,t. 1, 1803, p. 239).Vraie prière et cri de l'âme (Dupanloup, Journal,1864, p. 253).

https://youtu.be/tsYmhLCGnOY

[AleisterCrowley]

Es sieht für mich falsch aus

[bungeejumper]

Es sieht für mich falsch aus

I think it's OK, though. Pick up any French newspaper, and you'll find some back-page hack writing in the style of Rimbaud or Baudelaire. Being stylistically pretentious is just a part of the French soul. That's what comes of being made to study philosophy at school. As Mr Cantona so ably demonstrates.

So yes, cri de coeur is the most obvious way - "a cry from the heart". But cri du coeur is more like "a cry of the heart", which is (a) more pretentious, (b) more literary-sounding, and (c) the sort of place where two thousand years of catholicism, philosophising and recreational drug abuse is likely to get you.

BJ

[AleisterCrowley]

I like the first Rimbaud with the iconic bridge scene.

[GrahamPlatt]

While the phrase "cri du coeur" is the title of a well known film, a book and a couple of songs, it's certainly not just a 'literary' phrase and is in general use
e.g. https://criducoeur.org/

As "du" ( de+le) is either of the or from the, so cri du couer is quite properly a cry from the heart.
Plenty of examples and translations in context here: https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-e ... i+du+coeur ... https://context.reverso.net/translation ... i+du+coeur (whilst noting that the English translation is 'cri de coeur')

[bungeejumper]

As "du" ( de+le) is either of the or from the, so cri du couer is quite properly a cry from the heart.
Plenty of examples and translations in context here: https://dictionary.reverso.net/french-e ... i+du+coeur ... https://context.reverso.net/translation ... i+du+coeur (whilst noting that the English translation is 'cri de coeur')

LOL, I won't argue. What say we settle this honorably with a duel? Pré aux Clercs, 6 o'clock? Rapiers or épées?

Best of three?

BJ

[bungeejumper]

I like the first Rimbaud with the iconic bridge scene.

Well, I thought he was better in Rocky Ivy.

Which reminds me of the story about The Madness of King George. Originally they were going to call it The Madness of King George III, but they quickly realised that an American audience wouldn't feel inclined to watch it unless it had already seen the first two parts of the trilogy?

BJ