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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 2nd, 2021, 4:55 am

Game over, the important results are in.

Tesla Bjorn awards the ID.4 25 banana boxes, beating the e-tron, the model S, the model x 6 seater.... in fact everything which isn't an actual van or the model X 5 seater which being a model x nobody buys anymore.

- https://insideevs.com/news/498365/volks ... -box-test/

"25? That is insanely lots of boxes ...this is really impressive Manure." - Tesla Bjorn

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 2nd, 2021, 3:12 pm

Factset had pencilled in 172k deliveries for Tesla, but the reality is 180,338 produced and 184,800 delivered. An excellent beat of the Factset consensus number:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/02/tesla-t ... mbers.html

During the same period 1 year ago, troubled by C19, Tesla produced 102,672 and delivered 88,400.

At the current run rate Tesla would produce 4x180,338 = 721,352 which is well short of their 1 million unit goal, suggesting that substantial production gains are expected q2 to q4.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 3rd, 2021, 1:21 pm

Santa Monica style dinner, charger and drive in movies:

https://electrek.co/2021/04/02/elon-mus ... r-station/

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 3rd, 2021, 3:53 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:Santa Monica style dinner, charger and drive in movies:

https://electrek.co/2021/04/02/elon-mus ... r-station/

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Was wondering what glittering shiny thing had caught Elon's attention and taken his focus off the Roadster, the Semi...

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 4th, 2021, 8:21 pm

ID.Bjorn is back with a video comparison of the turning circles of the e-UP, the ID.4 and the model 3.

Which 2 do you think have an almost indistinguishable turning circle?

https://insideevs.com/news/498682/vw-id ... rcle-test/

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 5th, 2021, 5:33 pm

Bjorn takes the ID.4 up to the arctic circle for a sleep over

Part 1: Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWsiuZp-E6E

Part 2: Back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYCJ53qTQBk

Spoiler

"The ID.4 did the trip flawlessly ...overall I would say the ID.4 is highly recommended from me."

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 6th, 2021, 7:48 pm

Bjorn, still seems to be suffering from long Covid, at least based on this ID4 look:

https://youtu.be/IDlZYf083l4

The sealed rear drum brake looks to me to be a guarantee water ingress and internal corrosion problem waiting to happen as per every drum brake ever made.

Otherwise it lacks any beauty and curvature, a plain Jane of a BEV at best, ugly and angular at its worst.

All in all this looks to me like a model urgently needing a re-design.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby kiloran » April 6th, 2021, 7:55 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:
Otherwise it lacks any beauty and curvature, a plain Jane of a BEV at best, ugly and angular at its worst.

Regards,

Talking of ugly and angular....https://www.wired.com/story/why-tesla-c ... oks-weird/

--kiloran ;)

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 6th, 2021, 8:08 pm

VW ID4 v Max, good review showing lots of cost cutting and short changing the punter (29 mins 33):

https://youtu.be/emmcLNN8OGY

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 6th, 2021, 8:44 pm

kiloran wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:
Otherwise it lacks any beauty and curvature, a plain Jane of a BEV at best, ugly and angular at its worst.

Regards,

Talking of ugly and angular....https://www.wired.com/story/why-tesla-c ... oks-weird/

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Yes, but the ID4 is meant to be a shopping trolley and styled for users of such.

The Cyber is meant to re-invent the truck for the 21st century.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 6th, 2021, 9:59 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:Bjorn, still seems to be suffering from long Covid, at least based on this ID4 look


Classy as ever Ody.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 7th, 2021, 1:49 pm

The case for hydrogen in this video is made by Andrew Forrest, non-executive chairman of Fortescue Metals an Australian corporation.

Forrest is a credible businessman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Forrest, 2nd richest Australian.

The video is 35 minutes long with the first 6 minutes all about background that has some useful scene setting stuff, Forrest talks from about 6 minutes on.

For anyone who follows this field there is nothing new here, save for the size of the commitment that Fortescue are aiming for.

The thesis is simple: Fossil fuels are unsustainable and the world needs to transition to green fuels asap. He talks of generating electricity from solar and wind and then converting water into hydrogen & oxygen and then using the hydrogen to power everything via fuel cells with out discussing if fuel cells that can do this exist in commercial forms. It may be that I have missed something and such fuel cells exist and if so please point me to some links describing them. Additionally he argues for green steel and green fertilisers.

It all makes for a compelling investment case in Fortescue metals if one can use hydrogen via fuel cells to power all surface transport. If one can't make commercial fuel cells then burning hydrogen in ICE is far less attractive than battery storage and BEV imho.

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=deskt ... &bsft_tv=2

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 7th, 2021, 2:38 pm

US second hand model 3 market very strong:

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3 ... nd-market/

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 7th, 2021, 4:03 pm

Tesla model S (2014) with 1,300,000 driven, this has required 5 replacement motors and 3 replacement batteries. The more recent batteries and motors are now lasting much longer than the original ones from 2014 (8 mins 25):

https://youtu.be/2SQ5PoV1hYY

It would have been nice to have some commentary from the owner, but as an example of what is possible it sets a target to beat and suggests that Tesla have addressed quality issues as needed to produce the current more reliable power trains.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby kiloran » April 7th, 2021, 4:14 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:Tesla model S (2014) with 1,300,000 driven, this has required 5 replacement motors and 3 replacement batteries. The more recent batteries and motors are now lasting much longer than the original ones from 2014 (8 mins 25):

https://youtu.be/2SQ5PoV1hYY

Regards,

What????? the original ones only lasted 8 mins 25??!! That's not very good :lol:

--kiloran

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 7th, 2021, 5:02 pm

kiloran wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:Tesla model S (2014) with 1,300,000 driven, this has required 5 replacement motors and 3 replacement batteries. The more recent batteries and motors are now lasting much longer than the original ones from 2014 (8 mins 25):

https://youtu.be/2SQ5PoV1hYY

Regards,

What????? the original ones only lasted 8 mins 25??!! That's not very good :lol:

--kiloran


Ha Ha!
I was just giving the length of the video, not the motor and/or battery life expectancy!

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 7th, 2021, 7:00 pm

Revised S & X models delayed:

https://electrek.co/2021/04/07/tesla-de ... -vehicles/

Not clear what the issues here are, but the universal problem of cell shortage may be a factor although not mentioned by Electrek.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 7th, 2021, 9:50 pm

Munro does a quick appraisal of the ID4, no driving, just his view of colour, lines, driving, stowage etc:

imho this is way too small for the US market and has too much trying to make its controls like those of an ICE car:

https://youtu.be/b5YtPtNgCRg

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 8th, 2021, 11:27 am

odysseus2000 wrote:Revised S & X models delayed:

https://electrek.co/2021/04/07/tesla-de ... -vehicles/

Not clear what the issues here are, but the universal problem of cell shortage may be a factor although not mentioned by Electrek.

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It didn't strike you as strange that Tesla announced zero Q1 production of a car which Musk claimed was in production in February?

You think they are feeding older, lower margin models in preference to making the very public deadline for the refreshed S/X?

Finally we've found something which tesla do better than legacy! Roadster, Semi, CT, Plaid, X, S... not bad for a company which has 2 whole models in production.

odysseus2000 wrote:Munro does a quick appraisal of the ID4, no driving, just his view of colour, lines, driving, stowage etc:

imho this is way too small for the US market and has too much trying to make its controls like those of an ICE car


If the ID.4 is way too small for the US market then so are the model 3 and the model Y...

Yes, having controls that customers will be familiar with is obviously a silly idea...

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 8th, 2021, 11:42 am

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