Musk endeavours

[odysseus2000]

SpaceX star ship second launch went well.

No obvious damage to the launch pad, no obvious issues to separation although after separation the booster was destroyed by a controlled explosion, reason not currently released.

As of yet everything is provisional, but as of now, today was one huge step towards humans retuning to the Moon & then on to Mars & beyond.

Regards,

[Itsallaguess]

...but I doubt that Musk cares.

Which feels like an odd position for the owner of a company reliant on external ad-revenue to take, wouldn't you agree?

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

[odysseus2000]

...but I doubt that Musk cares.

Which feels like an odd position for the owner of a company reliant on external ad-revenue to take, wouldn't you agree?

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

No, Musk has not got where he is by behaving in ways that an accountant or lawyer would like.

Through out his career he has repeatedly done things that few others would do & this has made him the richest man in the capitalist world, although perhaps still poor compared to various heads of State in different systems.

Regards

[ReformedCharacter]

SpaceX star ship second launch went well.

No obvious damage to the launch pad, no obvious issues to separation although after separation the booster was destroyed by a controlled explosion, reason not currently released.

As of yet everything is provisional, but as of now, today was one huge step towards humans retuning to the Moon & then on to Mars & beyond.

Regards,

Informed analysis of the flight from Scott Manley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF2C7xE9Mj4

RC

[CliffEdge]

The Tesla 3 got a good review from What Car (other car magazines are available).

[odysseus2000]

SpaceX star ship second launch went well.

No obvious damage to the launch pad, no obvious issues to separation although after separation the booster was destroyed by a controlled explosion, reason not currently released.

As of yet everything is provisional, but as of now, today was one huge step towards humans retuning to the Moon & then on to Mars & beyond.

Regards,

Informed analysis of the flight from Scott Manley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF2C7xE9Mj4

RC

Interesting analysis.

The loss of flight tiles is a bit worrying, but perhaps indicative of structural stress before the actual explosion.

Overall it still looks to be a great move forwards, compared to the first test.

The failures look to be separated giving an opportunity to study each of them independently & come up with solutions, rather than one huge failure that would be harder to analyze.

I suspect it will be more of a time consumer to address these issues than regulator hurdles, although both are correlated.

Regards,

[scotview]

The failures look to be separated giving an opportunity to study each of them independently & come up with solutions, rather than one huge failure that would be harder to analyze.

Regards,

What absolutely amazes me is that all this is being facilitated by one individual. It took the NASA organisation and US government to get the Saturn rockets into space. Musk, in my book at least, has achieved this by his own tenacious, brilliant and organised persona.....he doesn't get half the credit for what he has done and possibly will do.

No doubt someone will be along soon with some negative, put down remarks.

[CliffEdge]

On the shoulders of giants...

[odysseus2000]

The failures look to be separated giving an opportunity to study each of them independently & come up with solutions, rather than one huge failure that would be harder to analyze.

Regards,

What absolutely amazes me is that all this is being facilitated by one individual. It took the NASA organisation and US government to get the Saturn rockets into space. Musk, in my book at least, has achieved this by his own tenacious, brilliant and organised persona.....he doesn't get half the credit for what he has done and possibly will do.

No doubt someone will be along soon with some negative, put down remarks.

Amen to that!

The closest person to Musk but just in rockets was Wernher von Braun.


When I worked at the Marshall Space Flight Centre, the old timers would reminisce about how Wernher took a bunch of red necks at the Red Stone weapons plant that Marshall is a small part of & turned them into rocket engineers. He has huge political backing after Kennedy’s speech & almost limitless resources, but he still had to turn red necks into rocket engineers & he managed in part via his own powerful personality.

Musk though has done something far more impressive. Not only has he made reusable rocket ships he has galvanized the explorers in NASA to take the lead. When I was there one of the senior NASA managers told me how it was likely that NASA would never go back to the moon.

Regards,

[Itsallaguess]

Musk, in my book at least, has achieved this by his own tenacious, brilliant and organised persona.....he doesn't get half the credit for what he has done and possibly will do.

No doubt someone will be along soon with some negative, put down remarks.

But surely it's valid to be able to completely recognise the brilliant achievements that he's made up to this point, whilst still perhaps looking to critically assess his ability to wreck his personal or business-specific legacy at some future point in time...

The two positions are not mutually exclusive...

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

[TUK020]

On the shoulders of giants...

Glynne Shotwell?

[odysseus2000]

Musk, in my book at least, has achieved this by his own tenacious, brilliant and organised persona.....he doesn't get half the credit for what he has done and possibly will do.

No doubt someone will be along soon with some negative, put down remarks.

But surely it's valid to be able to completely recognise the brilliant achievements that he's made up to this point, whilst still perhaps looking to critically assess his ability to wreck his personal or business-specific legacy at some future point in time...

The two positions are not mutually exclusive...

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

It is possible to do very many things & there are folk who hate Musk & anyone who celebrates him.

In my view the worth of an individual is what they contribute to humanity.

Are reusable rockets good?

Are renewable powered cars good?

Is AI a potentially transformative technology with risks?

Did woke ideas need to be opposed?

Did social media hate need to be addressed?

On & on Musk has done things that he believes are for the good of humanity.

On & on the haters have tried to destroy him, to undermine him in any way possible, often creating political storms about things, such as the recent one over anti semantic remarks which were never so.

This does not mean that Musk can not be wrong, or one can not be critical of him, but any such critical comments need to address real issues, not be orchestrated social media campaigns fueled by hate with out having some specific true things to complain about.

The fundamental issue is that Musk is hurting vested interests in many areas & these vested interests are doing their best to undermine him so that they can continue to make money in ways that are harmful to the planet & to humanity.

Regards,

[murraypaul]

He believes that in a free country he can say anything legal & express any legal view point. His statement was that any discrimination was wrong & it’s hard to argue with that.

Hard to square that with him threatening to sue the Anti-Defamation League.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 05195.html

Elon Musk has threatened to sue the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) for billions of dollars after quixotically blaming the Jewish rights organisation for spreading antisemitism on his social media platform X.

The self-proclaimed “free speech absolutist”, who has amplified and reinstated neo-Nazi and far-right accounts since acquiring X, formerly known as Twitter, for $44bn last year blamed the ADL for “destroying” $22bn in the company’s value in a series of posts on Monday.

“Since the acquisition, The ADL has been trying to kill this platform by falsely accusing it & me of being anti-Semitic,” Mr Musk wrote.

He claimed that the site’s United States advertising revenue was down 60 per cent “primarily due to pressure on advertisers by ADL”.

“If this continues, we will have no choice but to file a defamation suit against, ironically, the ‘Anti-Defamation’ League.”

[murraypaul]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67482231

Elon Musk's social media platform X has sued a left-leaning pressure group that accused the site of allowing antisemitic posts next to advertising.

X's lawsuit alleges that Media Matters for America "manipulated" data in an attempt to "destroy" the platform formerly known as Twitter.

On Saturday, Mr Musk vowed to file a "thermonuclear" lawsuit against Media Matters, and anyone "who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company".

In response, Media Matters president Angelo Carusone said they would win any legal action.

"Far from the free speech advocate he claims to be, Musk is a bully who threatens meritless lawsuits in an attempt to silence reporting that he even confirmed is accurate," Mr Carusone said in a statement.

It is unclear what exactly X is claiming. I don't think they are saying that the images themselves were faked, but possibly that Media Matters deliberately created a profile that would cause the advertising engine to show them the result they wanted?

This sounds like they are saying the images are faked:

The lawsuit, filed in Texas on Monday, argues: "Media Matters knowingly and maliciously manufactured side-by-side images depicting advertisers' posts on X Corp's social media platform beside Neo-Nazi and white-nationalist fringe content and then portrayed these manufactured images as if they were what typical X users experience on the platform.

But this says that they were generated by X, but only for Media Matters:

X said in the lawsuit that ads for Comcast, Oracle and IBM had only appeared alongside hateful content for Media Matters, and no other viewer.

Linda Yaccarino, chief executive of X, posted on Monday: "Here's the truth. Not a single authentic user on X saw IBM's, Comcast's, or Oracle's ads next to the content in Media Matters' article."

[odysseus2000]

As I understand it, X are alleging that they were libelled by Media Matters, i.e. Media Matters caused material that was accessible to anyone who can see to present information that was untrue and damaging to X.

Whether this was true or false is now the subject of legal court action.

For X to win they will have to show that Media Matters deliberately "printed" things that were both untrue and injurious to X.

What "printed" means in this case is up to the court to decide. If e.g. Media Matters were shown to have manipulated the X platform to obtain something injurious to X they would be in a difficult position.

Alternatively if Media Matters can show that they used the X platform according to all the rules set out by X and still the injurious stuff appeared, then X would be in a difficult position.

This court case will likely take many months to be resolved.

Regards,

[CliffEdge]

Why did he buy Twitter? Seems a daft move to me. Thought he was supposed to be clever.

[88V8]

Why did he buy Twitter? Seems a daft move to me.

He must wonder that.

V8

[odysseus2000]

Why did he buy Twitter? Seems a daft move to me. Thought he was supposed to be clever.

To protect the world from the Woke virus & to create a one stop destination for media, finances etc.

Whether it works out to be a financial success is unknowable, although I think it will, but the biggest losers are traditional media & competing social media along with the traditional financial system business.

If the idea of a decentralized crypto currency works through X then the $44 billion he paid looks like a steal.

Regards,

[murraypaul]

Why did he buy Twitter? Seems a daft move to me. Thought he was supposed to be clever.

Because he made an impulsive move and then couldn't back out of it, even though he tried hard.

[Howard]

BYD Produces Its 6 Millionth Plugin Vehicle!

"The 6 millionth new energy vehicle came just 3 months after the 5 millionth new energy vehicle! BYD is now producing approximately a million new energy vehicles per quarter, and it increased its cumulative output by 20% over the course of just 3 months. "

regards

Howard

https://cleantechnica.com/2023/11/24/by ... n-vehicle/