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Re: AI endeavours

Posted: August 26th, 2022, 9:14 am
by odysseus2000

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: September 23rd, 2022, 9:44 pm
by odysseus2000
This is potentially what Tesla bot can do for humanity:

https://youtu.be/LbAMB1h_ins

Regards,

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: December 4th, 2022, 1:35 pm
by BobbyD
Anybody played with gpt-3 yet?

On Wednesday, OpenAI announced ChatGPT, a dialogue-based AI chat interface for its GPT-3 family of large language models. It's currently free to use with an OpenAI account during a testing phase. Unlike the GPT-3 model found in OpenAI's Playground and API, ChatGPT provides a user-friendly conversational interface and is designed to strongly limit potentially harmful output.

FURTHER READING
OpenAI upgrades GPT-3, stunning with rhyming poetry and lyrics
"The dialogue format makes it possible for ChatGPT to answer followup questions, admit its mistakes, challenge incorrect premises, and reject inappropriate requests," writes OpenAI on its announcement blog page.

So far, people have been putting ChatGPT through its paces, finding a wide variety of potential uses while also exploring its vulnerabilities. It can write poetry, correct coding mistakes with detailed examples, generate AI art prompts, write new code, expound on the philosophical classification of a hot dog as a sandwich, and explain the worst-case time complexity of the bubble sort algorithm... in the style of a "fast-talkin' wise guy from a 1940's gangster movie."


https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... g-results/

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: December 4th, 2022, 2:14 pm
by ReformedCharacter
BobbyD wrote:Anybody played with gpt-3 yet?

On Wednesday, OpenAI announced ChatGPT, a dialogue-based AI chat interface for its GPT-3 family of large language models. It's currently free to use with an OpenAI account during a testing phase. Unlike the GPT-3 model found in OpenAI's Playground and API, ChatGPT provides a user-friendly conversational interface and is designed to strongly limit potentially harmful output.

FURTHER READING
OpenAI upgrades GPT-3, stunning with rhyming poetry and lyrics
"The dialogue format makes it possible for ChatGPT to answer followup questions, admit its mistakes, challenge incorrect premises, and reject inappropriate requests," writes OpenAI on its announcement blog page.

So far, people have been putting ChatGPT through its paces, finding a wide variety of potential uses while also exploring its vulnerabilities. It can write poetry, correct coding mistakes with detailed examples, generate AI art prompts, write new code, expound on the philosophical classification of a hot dog as a sandwich, and explain the worst-case time complexity of the bubble sort algorithm... in the style of a "fast-talkin' wise guy from a 1940's gangster movie."


https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... g-results/

Yes, viewtopic.php?p=552063#p552063

RC

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: December 4th, 2022, 2:23 pm
by BobbyD
ReformedCharacter wrote:Yes, viewtopic.php?p=552063#p552063

RC


It looks a little bit good!

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: December 4th, 2022, 2:52 pm
by ReformedCharacter
BobbyD wrote:
ReformedCharacter wrote:Yes, viewtopic.php?p=552063#p552063

RC


It looks a little bit good!

I think so. The main shortcoming to me is that it is not 'connected' to the Internet. The coding abilities look most impressive. Interestingly, ChatGPT gives different answers to the same question (stochastic?) and when I asked for Python code to get the temperature in London twice it gave slightly different answers on each occasion. Most impressive IMO.

RC

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: January 22nd, 2023, 9:24 pm
by BobbyD
Interesting video on the issues behind lawsuits bought against AI image generators by the owners of copywrited works included in their training sets


https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=gv9cdTh8cUo

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: March 6th, 2023, 12:25 pm
by odysseus2000
Some ark estimates on the cost of ai going forwards:

https://youtu.be/TogDlICXfAU

Regards,

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: March 22nd, 2023, 6:48 pm
by odysseus2000
Interesting presentation by Nvidia on what they call the iPhone moment of chatGPT (29:35):

https://youtu.be/9ykRV2OMPbE

Far too much buzz & far too little substance for me. Sure chatGPT is a very impressive rendering agent, but the presentation was too nebulous & all encompassing to help me get a better feel for whether nvda is a leader with a mission or just a cheer leader trying to sell the hardware. If they are on a mission what about competitors moats. I may have missed some stuff, but first impression was that nvda’s presentation was lame.

What do you think?

Regards,

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: March 24th, 2023, 12:41 am
by odysseus2000
This is a super interesting development in AI, that reduces the cost to train to about $600 by using existing AI to do the training.

AI is not only making many human jobs obsolete, but also the AI companies themselves. How ironic is that! (9:45):

https://youtu.be/K2Ua4LkyxRY

Regards,

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: March 26th, 2023, 11:21 am
by odysseus2000

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: March 31st, 2023, 3:51 pm
by murraypaul
https://cointelegraph.com/news/elon-mus ... -community

Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak were signatories on an open letter signed by more than 2,600 tech industry leaders and researchers. The open letter called for a temporary halt on any further artificial intelligence (AI) development.

The petition shared concerns that AI with human-competitive intelligence can pose serious hazards to society and mankind. It urged all AI firms to "immediately cease" developing AI systems that are more potent than Generative Pre-trained Transformer 4 (GPT-4) for at least six months. GPT-4 is a multimodal large language model created by OpenAI and the fourth in its GPT series.


I guess Tesla's AI projects aren't going well.

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: April 2nd, 2023, 11:54 pm
by odysseus2000
murraypaul wrote:https://cointelegraph.com/news/elon-musk-led-petition-to-halt-ai-development-divides-tech-community

Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak were signatories on an open letter signed by more than 2,600 tech industry leaders and researchers. The open letter called for a temporary halt on any further artificial intelligence (AI) development.

The petition shared concerns that AI with human-competitive intelligence can pose serious hazards to society and mankind. It urged all AI firms to "immediately cease" developing AI systems that are more potent than Generative Pre-trained Transformer 4 (GPT-4) for at least six months. GPT-4 is a multimodal large language model created by OpenAI and the fourth in its GPT series.


I guess Tesla's AI projects aren't going well.


Ha Ha, Tesla have the most advanced practical AI system on the planet, driving 4,000+ lb cars at highways speeds and also Optimus robots that are beginning to do factory tasks.

If anyone on the plant understands AI and its potential dangers then its Tesla.

As is if one of the chats finds a vulnerability in any of the millions of systems it is connected to it could decide to try and experiment like seeing what happens if it changed something.

AI are the fastest growing and most powerful tool ever invented and no one knows what this new intelligence might do.

Regards,

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: April 3rd, 2023, 10:33 am
by BobbyD
odysseus2000 wrote:
murraypaul wrote:https://cointelegraph.com/news/elon-musk-led-petition-to-halt-ai-development-divides-tech-community



I guess Tesla's AI projects aren't going well.


Ha Ha, Tesla have the most advanced practical AI system on the planet, driving 4,000+ lb cars at highways speeds and also Optimus robots that are beginning to do factory tasks.

If anyone on the plant understands AI and its potential dangers then its Tesla.



Ody, this claim was hilarious thebfirst time you made it, funny the second, but now its just beginning to look like plain old delusion.

Tesla's Fake Self Driving is a joke, Hyundai's Boston Dynamic's bipedal robots could literally kick Optimus's ass, and the idea that Tesla is class leading in practical AI is an insult to anybody who has worked in the field in the last 20 years.

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: April 3rd, 2023, 11:22 am
by CliffEdge
odysseus2000 wrote:
Ha Ha, Tesla have the most advanced practical AI system on the planet, driving 4,000+ lb cars at highways speeds and also Optimus robots that are beginning to do factory tasks.

If anyone on the plant understands AI and its potential dangers then its Tesla

Regards,

I don't understand why you think that

BTW the Turing test was always rubbish.

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: April 3rd, 2023, 2:00 pm
by odysseus2000
BobbyD wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:
Ha Ha, Tesla have the most advanced practical AI system on the planet, driving 4,000+ lb cars at highways speeds and also Optimus robots that are beginning to do factory tasks.

If anyone on the plant understands AI and its potential dangers then its Tesla.



Ody, this claim was hilarious thebfirst time you made it, funny the second, but now its just beginning to look like plain old delusion.

Tesla's Fake Self Driving is a joke, Hyundai's Boston Dynamic's bipedal robots could literally kick Optimus's ass, and the idea that Tesla is class leading in practical AI is an insult to anybody who has worked in the field in the last 20 years.


There have been many studies comparing Tesla AI driving to those offered by competitors and Tesla have been far better. The geofenced systems are not general driving AI.

Boston Dynamics robots are too expensive for anyone but the military whereas Optimus is designed to be makable at low cost.

The idea that the folk who have been doing AI for 20 years have created anything practical is a delusion. Only since the use of neural nets has the AI community created the language model "chats" but they are not operating 4000 lb cars on roads at highway speeds.

Regards,

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: April 3rd, 2023, 2:07 pm
by BobbyD
odysseus2000 wrote:
BobbyD wrote:

Ody, this claim was hilarious thebfirst time you made it, funny the second, but now its just beginning to look like plain old delusion.

Tesla's Fake Self Driving is a joke, Hyundai's Boston Dynamic's bipedal robots could literally kick Optimus's ass, and the idea that Tesla is class leading in practical AI is an insult to anybody who has worked in the field in the last 20 years.


There have been many studies comparing Tesla AI driving to those offered by competitors and Tesla have been far better. The geofenced systems are not general driving AI.

Boston Dynamics robots are too expensive for anyone but the military whereas Optimus is designed to be makable at low cost.

The idea that the folk who have been doing AI for 20 years have created anything practical is a delusion. Only since the use of neural nets has the AI community created the language model "chats" but they are not operating 4000 lb cars on roads at highway speeds.

Regards,


Actually the last comparison which came out ranked Tesla dead last. Fake self driving is a level 2 driver assistance system, and Tesla have advised the California DMV that it will always be a level 2 ADAS.

The Level 4 Geofenced systems you disparage are autonomous, they operate without a driver. They are literally on a different level to the Tesla system.

Optimus has to be carried around the stage by 3 people, where as once again the BD robots actually work!

Musk is I grant you a world class presenter of ambition, but leave the actual tech to companies which can actually get a working product to market.

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: April 3rd, 2023, 2:09 pm
by odysseus2000
CliffEdge wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:
Ha Ha, Tesla have the most advanced practical AI system on the planet, driving 4,000+ lb cars at highways speeds and also Optimus robots that are beginning to do factory tasks.

If anyone on the plant understands AI and its potential dangers then its Tesla

Regards,

I don't understand why you think that

BTW the Turing test was always rubbish.


I don't understand why you don't think that.

Regards,

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: April 3rd, 2023, 2:21 pm
by odysseus2000
BobbyD
Actually the last comparison which came out ranked Tesla dead last. Fake self driving is a level 2 driver assistance system, and Tesla have advised the California DMV that it will always be a level 2 ADAS.

The Level 4 Geofenced systems you disparage are autonomous, they operate without a driver. They are literally on a different level to the Tesla system.

Optimus has to be carried around the stage by 3 people, where as once again the BD robots actually work!


There have been lots of comparisons of self drive systems and in most cases Tesla are a long way ahead.

Geofenced systems are not general solutions and never can be. Any road works and they fail.

Optimus is able to walk and do simple jobs.

Regards,

Re: AI endeavours

Posted: April 3rd, 2023, 2:41 pm
by BobbyD
odysseus2000 wrote:
BobbyD
Actually the last comparison which came out ranked Tesla dead last. Fake self driving is a level 2 driver assistance system, and Tesla have advised the California DMV that it will always be a level 2 ADAS.

The Level 4 Geofenced systems you disparage are autonomous, they operate without a driver. They are literally on a different level to the Tesla system.

Optimus has to be carried around the stage by 3 people, where as once again the BD robots actually work!


There have been lots of comparisons of self drive systems and in most cases Tesla are a long way ahead.

Geofenced systems are not general solutions and never can be. Any road works and they fail.

Optimus is able to walk and do simple jobs.

Regards,


Tesla have a system which is autonomous under exactly zero conditions.

Several companies have cars which are running around a number of cities picking up and dropping off paying customers without a driver.

The idea that Tesla are in any way ahead is risible.

The idea that making Tesla's precocious cruise control autonomous under all conditions is going to be easier than expanding a geo-fence, or reducing the requirements for that geo-fence is risibler.

Optimus is just another of Musk's attempts to distract from the fact that the Roadster, The CyberTruck, The Semi and a version of FSD that is actually capable of autonomous driving are nowhere in sight, despite all being many years overdue.