Donate to Remove ads

Got a credit card? use our Credit Card & Finance Calculators

Thanks to Rhyd6,eyeball08,Wondergirly,bofh,johnstevens77, for Donating to support the site

Musk endeavours

The Big Picture Place
odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524117

Postby odysseus2000 » August 21st, 2022, 10:58 am

Fsd 69 looks super sexy in this 35 minute zero intervention night drive:

https://youtu.be/jCTssX2VdKA

Regards,

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524454

Postby odysseus2000 » August 22nd, 2022, 9:17 pm

Munro continue the tear down of the 4680 structural battery pack in the model y:

https://youtu.be/ZYm0HQAodc4

I wanted to know how the fusing was done but this they either didn't show or I missed, but it is an extraordinarily efficient way to make a car.

Regards,

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524601

Postby odysseus2000 » August 23rd, 2022, 12:09 pm

Saudi Arabia going big on batteries:

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic ... ntent=view

Regards,

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524622

Postby odysseus2000 » August 23rd, 2022, 1:00 pm

Tesla head of self driving explains many features about how the Tesla fsd software is being constructed:

https://youtu.be/jPCV4GKX9Dw

Regards,

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524635

Postby odysseus2000 » August 23rd, 2022, 1:45 pm

10.69 on unprotected turns, the performance is extraordinarily good (circa 15 mins):

https://youtu.be/xpzJPe1DrzQ

My general impression from all these videos is that fsd will happen shortly, say by end of the year. As I have mentioned several times the performance of the software has increased exponentially & shows no sign of losing its ability to quickly improve. If Fsd is approved for use the price of Tesla stock goes up a lot!

Regards,

BobbyD
Lemon Half
Posts: 7814
Joined: January 22nd, 2017, 2:29 pm
Has thanked: 665 times
Been thanked: 1289 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524655

Postby BobbyD » August 23rd, 2022, 2:36 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:My general impression from all these videos is that fsd will happen shortly, say by end of the year.


You are Elon Musk. Please give my £10 prize to charity.

murraypaul
Lemon Slice
Posts: 785
Joined: April 9th, 2021, 5:54 pm
Has thanked: 225 times
Been thanked: 265 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524659

Postby murraypaul » August 23rd, 2022, 2:53 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:My general impression from all these videos is that fsd will happen shortly, say by end of the year.


... every year, each year until further notice..

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524663

Postby odysseus2000 » August 23rd, 2022, 3:02 pm

murraypaul wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:My general impression from all these videos is that fsd will happen shortly, say by end of the year.


... every year, each year until further notice..


Ha Ha

Generalised comments and actions based on past experience are a sure fire way for an investor to end up in the poor house.

Have you looked at the videos of fsd 10.69 and seen the rate of improvement over the original fsd software. Calculate the rate of change and extrapolate.

Regards,

BobbyD
Lemon Half
Posts: 7814
Joined: January 22nd, 2017, 2:29 pm
Has thanked: 665 times
Been thanked: 1289 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524666

Postby BobbyD » August 23rd, 2022, 3:07 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:
murraypaul wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:My general impression from all these videos is that fsd will happen shortly, say by end of the year.


... every year, each year until further notice..


Ha Ha

Generalised comments and actions based on past experience are a sure fire way for an investor to end up in the poor house.


What's hilarious is that that is what Musk has said every year since 2016 and people still believe it!

ReformedCharacter
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 3137
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 11:12 am
Has thanked: 3640 times
Been thanked: 1520 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524671

Postby ReformedCharacter » August 23rd, 2022, 3:19 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:
Have you looked at the videos of fsd 10.69 and seen the rate of improvement over the original fsd software. Calculate the rate of change and extrapolate.

Regards,

TBH I'm not sure that extrapolation is a useful way of looking at it because the remaining hurdles to FSD are the hardest problems to solve, it couldn't be otherwise. The question is, how long it will take to solve the hardest problems? And I'm (unfortunately) not confident that sufficient of the hardest problems will be solved for FSD to work, in the near future.

RC

BobbyD
Lemon Half
Posts: 7814
Joined: January 22nd, 2017, 2:29 pm
Has thanked: 665 times
Been thanked: 1289 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524684

Postby BobbyD » August 23rd, 2022, 3:46 pm

ReformedCharacter wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:
Have you looked at the videos of fsd 10.69 and seen the rate of improvement over the original fsd software. Calculate the rate of change and extrapolate.

Regards,

TBH I'm not sure that extrapolation is a useful way of looking at it because the remaining hurdles to FSD are the hardest problems to solve, it couldn't be otherwise. The question is, how long it will take to solve the hardest problems? And I'm (unfortunately) not confident that sufficient of the hardest problems will be solved for FSD to work, in the near future.

RC


Throw in the fact that without regulatory approval FSD would just be a really good L2 even if they could get it working, which they can't...

Although to be entirely fair FSD's biggest problem is the approach Tesla have taken, which was the first not the last problem they 'solved'.

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524739

Postby odysseus2000 » August 23rd, 2022, 5:49 pm

TBH I'm not sure that extrapolation is a useful way of looking at it because the remaining hurdles to FSD are the hardest problems to solve, it couldn't be otherwise. The question is, how long it will take to solve the hardest problems? And I'm (unfortunately) not confident that sufficient of the hardest problems will be solved for FSD to work, in the near future.

RC


No you are making a mistake here.

If this was mathematics then you would be right, but this is engineering and problems have many different solutions.

That Tesla FSD is getting significantly better tells you that the engineers are finding ways around problems and coming up with practical solutions that work. This kind of progress is amenable to extrapolation. It is not an asymptotic problem so common in mathematics.

Once FSD is working better than humans the voters (we want safe roads) and financial (insurance company, medical, law enforcement,...) pressures will force politicians to have it adopted and at the same time begin the process to remove all human drivers from the roads.other

All other car makers will have to license the FSD software and hardware or come up with something better or equivalent.

In this future, the current Tesla stock price is ridiculously under valued.

Regards,

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524744

Postby odysseus2000 » August 23rd, 2022, 6:06 pm

Did Twitter deliberately lie to Musk as this whistle blower says:

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter ... ?r=US&IR=T

If this is true then Twitter board are heading towards the slammer.

Regards,

BobbyD
Lemon Half
Posts: 7814
Joined: January 22nd, 2017, 2:29 pm
Has thanked: 665 times
Been thanked: 1289 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524753

Postby BobbyD » August 23rd, 2022, 6:21 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:That Tesla FSD is getting significantly better tells you...


...how incredibly poor it was to start with. It's not autonomy it's a cruise control with delusions of grandeur. It's so bad that Tesla told the California DMV it was and would remain level 2 because they don't want miles per disengagement published. In 2021 Waymo's autonomous vehicles disengaged once every 7200 miles driven in California. Cruise managed one disengagement per 42,000 miles driven. Those are serious attempts at autonomy.

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#524774

Postby odysseus2000 » August 23rd, 2022, 7:37 pm

Waymo is a massively expensive car that can never be practical & even so is confined to drive only where the company wants it to.

It is not mass market car driving & never can be.

Regards,

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#525060

Postby odysseus2000 » August 24th, 2022, 9:19 pm

Super interesting & informative video on dojo:

https://youtu.be/FLZ6dYQpzeg

Regards,

ReformedCharacter
Lemon Quarter
Posts: 3137
Joined: November 4th, 2016, 11:12 am
Has thanked: 3640 times
Been thanked: 1520 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#525557

Postby ReformedCharacter » August 26th, 2022, 8:22 pm

Once the Starship works as designed:

Elon Musk has pledged to eradicate mobile phone “not spots” with his network of Starlink satellites, promising to allow people to send texts in areas of low or no signal.

The billionaire has claimed mobile phones will soon be able to connect to his Starlink network, replicating the technology usually reversed for bulky satellite phones.

In a deal with US mobile network T-Mobile, Starlink said it will launch a new fleet of satellites that can provide mobile signals in remote areas with no terrestrial base stations. Mr Musk’s company will give smartphone users the ability to send texts from mobile “not-spots” – an area with no or low internet – by connecting to one of thousands of satellites in low earth orbit....

Mr Musk claimed that Starlink’s service would allow regular mobile phones to connect to signals. Mr Musk said the service would launch next year and “transmit direct to mobile phones, eliminating dead zones worldwide”.

Its deal with T-Mobile will initially aim to eliminate remote blackspots in the US. The signal will be extremely limited, between two and four megabits per second, and only reliable for sending or receiving text messages. Mr Musk said it would ultimately aim to include voice calls and internet connectivity.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/08/26/elon-musk-promises-fix-mobile-phone-not-spots-starlink-satellites/

RC

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#525623

Postby odysseus2000 » August 27th, 2022, 10:21 am

ReformedCharacter wrote:Once the Starship works as designed:

Elon Musk has pledged to eradicate mobile phone “not spots” with his network of Starlink satellites, promising to allow people to send texts in areas of low or no signal.

The billionaire has claimed mobile phones will soon be able to connect to his Starlink network, replicating the technology usually reversed for bulky satellite phones.

In a deal with US mobile network T-Mobile, Starlink said it will launch a new fleet of satellites that can provide mobile signals in remote areas with no terrestrial base stations. Mr Musk’s company will give smartphone users the ability to send texts from mobile “not-spots” – an area with no or low internet – by connecting to one of thousands of satellites in low earth orbit....

Mr Musk claimed that Starlink’s service would allow regular mobile phones to connect to signals. Mr Musk said the service would launch next year and “transmit direct to mobile phones, eliminating dead zones worldwide”.

Its deal with T-Mobile will initially aim to eliminate remote blackspots in the US. The signal will be extremely limited, between two and four megabits per second, and only reliable for sending or receiving text messages. Mr Musk said it would ultimately aim to include voice calls and internet connectivity.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/08/26/elon-musk-promises-fix-mobile-phone-not-spots-starlink-satellites/

RC


The satellites need large antennas to be able to pick up the weak signal from a mobile phone and for this reason can not be launched by any other vehicle than starship.

It remains to be seen how well this technology will work.

If it works it will be possible to send a text message from any point in the US with the phone using one of the orbiting starlink satellites like a terrestrial cell tower. In principle this can be expanded all over the planet.

The technology is complicated as one has to correct for the Doppler shift that changes as the satellite approaches and then passes over the cell phone.

A side effect is that anyone with a mobile phone can be traced, although how well one can be sure of their position is unclear to me.

Regards,

odysseus2000
Lemon Half
Posts: 6438
Joined: November 8th, 2016, 11:33 pm
Has thanked: 1562 times
Been thanked: 975 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#526108

Postby odysseus2000 » August 29th, 2022, 2:06 pm

Tesla aim for self driving approval by end of year:

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3877348-t ... 9243.23491

Regards,

BobbyD
Lemon Half
Posts: 7814
Joined: January 22nd, 2017, 2:29 pm
Has thanked: 665 times
Been thanked: 1289 times

Re: Musk endeavours

#526117

Postby BobbyD » August 29th, 2022, 2:37 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:Tesla aim for self driving approval by end of year:

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3877348-t ... 9243.23491

Regards,


....depending on regulatory approval.

He should have used this stuff on SNL. Quality jokes.


Return to “Macro and Global Topics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests