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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 14th, 2021, 6:26 pm

Interesting tweet. Does this lead to future larger sales?:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/145 ... 53824?s=20

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Postby scrumpyjack » November 15th, 2021, 10:12 am

Had to laugh at Elon's latest tweet in response too Bernie Sanders saying it was 'immoral' for people like Musk and Bezos to be so rich.

Musk tweeted “I keep forgetting that you’re still alive.”

Musk will be paying a lot of tax on his recent share sales and a lot more on the sales he will have to make before his options expire.

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 15th, 2021, 10:41 am

scrumpyjack wrote:Had to laugh at Elon's latest tweet in response too Bernie Sanders saying it was 'immoral' for people like Musk and Bezos to be so rich.

Musk tweeted “I keep forgetting that you’re still alive.”

Musk will be paying a lot of tax on his recent share sales and a lot more on the sales he will have to make before his options expire.


His share sales are in part to pay for his options & taxes when they vest. A quality problem to have!

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 15th, 2021, 11:10 am

Some commentary on Elon's sales and what seems to be his maximising of the tax he will pay:

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-tsla-el ... ximum-tax/

It is kind of interesting that there is a body of Americans, whose nations is built on capitalism, arguing that it is a bad idea. As though creating world leading technology and employing a lot of people is not a good thing, but a bad one and that any one who does this should be punished.

It is quite appealing to many to argue that Musk should pay a lot more tax and the idea resonates throughout history. High taxes were once levied in the UK with "The Beatles" having to pay 90% of the profits they made in tax:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxman

No one ever seems to research whether such high taxes lead to an increase in the common good but usually they lead to the people who are innovating and creating wealth deciding to emigrate.

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Postby scrumpyjack » November 15th, 2021, 12:13 pm

It seems that antics of the PC, envy driven, left wing democrats like Sanders, AOC etc are losing them a lot of votes (eg Virginia recently) and the result will very probably be they will lose the mid term elections and so no longer have legislative control. Musk can afford to laugh at them!

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 15th, 2021, 2:44 pm

scrumpyjack wrote:It seems that antics of the PC, envy driven, left wing democrats like Sanders, AOC etc are losing them a lot of votes (eg Virginia recently) and the result will very probably be they will lose the mid term elections and so no longer have legislative control. Musk can afford to laugh at them!


Certainly possible, but the democrats did well to beat Trump and that organisation still exists and may effectively counter the current narrative with a new one, asking do you want Trump & his policies back?

In the middle of all of this warfare, claim and counter claim is the BEV and PHEV policies and who knows what deals may be done to the assistance of US legacy cars and detriment of Tesla.

Sure Elon is rich and has a lot of support, but, at least for now, the democrats are not powerless and may create serious mischief for Tesla, just like the German politicians have for giga Berlin.

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 15th, 2021, 2:48 pm

Meanwhile Tesla continues to fall, gap down and falling, now not far off the recent low of 987.31.

My decision to hold Tesla through this is one of the most stupid I have ever made and that is what happens when one gets too emotional about a company, thinking of it as a generational stock etc.

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Postby BobbyD » November 15th, 2021, 2:57 pm

scrumpyjack wrote:It seems that antics of the PC, envy driven, left wing democrats like Sanders, AOC etc are losing them a lot of votes (eg Virginia recently) and the result will very probably be they will lose the mid term elections and so no longer have legislative control. Musk can afford to laugh at them!


Virginia result was down to how the parties ran. The Republicans picked the right candiate, the Dems ran an inappropriate campaign against him. The Republican wasn't an ardent Trumpette, the Democrats ran a campaign based on making him out as a proxy for Trump. If teh Republican primary had chosen a different candidate, one of whom described the Jan 6th insurrectionists as 'Patriots' they would have got hammered, if the Dems ran an effective campaign they wouldn't have got hammered.

Sitting President's parties almost invariably lose the midterm.

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Postby BobbyD » November 15th, 2021, 2:58 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:My decision to hold Tesla through this is one of the most stupid I have ever made and that is what happens when one gets too emotional about a company, thinking of it as a generational stock etc.


It's a good job you don't have to rely on hindsight like the rest of us Ody!

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Postby BobbyD » November 15th, 2021, 3:01 pm

Michael Burry is once again commenting on Elon Musk, saying that the Tesla Inc. CEO doesn’t need cash, he just wants to sell his company’s stock.

“He doesn’t need cash. He just wants to sell $TSLA,” the investor made famous in “The Big Short” film said in a tweet. He also tweeted a chart of Tesla’s share price -- last closed at $1,033.42 -- with an arrow pointing to when Musk said that the automaker’s stock was trading “too high.”

Burry has called out Musk multiple times in recent days, criticizing him over his comments on Rivian Automotive Inc. and saying that his personal loans were probably the reason he needed to sell stock.


- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... sell-tesla

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 15th, 2021, 3:30 pm

BobbyD wrote:
Michael Burry is once again commenting on Elon Musk, saying that the Tesla Inc. CEO doesn’t need cash, he just wants to sell his company’s stock.

“He doesn’t need cash. He just wants to sell $TSLA,” the investor made famous in “The Big Short” film said in a tweet. He also tweeted a chart of Tesla’s share price -- last closed at $1,033.42 -- with an arrow pointing to when Musk said that the automaker’s stock was trading “too high.”

Burry has called out Musk multiple times in recent days, criticizing him over his comments on Rivian Automotive Inc. and saying that his personal loans were probably the reason he needed to sell stock.


- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... sell-tesla


Yes, it all working out well for the longs!

In our media influenced world it always makes sense to capitalise on what ever is happening with ones own interpretation. Burry has form having called the real estate collapse early and made a fortune and no doubt there are elements of truth in what he writes.

Clearly there are lots of shorts capitalising on a forced seller with no clarity as to when the selling stops. In the two day window between sale and SEC notification a huge amount of panic can be created and Burry is doing is best.

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Postby BobbyD » November 15th, 2021, 6:38 pm

Tesla has a serious phantom braking problem in Autopilot


- https://electrek.co/2021/11/15/tesla-se ... autopilot/

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 15th, 2021, 7:22 pm

BobbyD wrote:
Tesla has a serious phantom braking problem in Autopilot


- https://electrek.co/2021/11/15/tesla-se ... autopilot/


Oh Dear, it seems to be like the phantom braking that Red Sturgeon found so annoying with his VW that he turned it off.

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 15th, 2021, 7:24 pm

Now seems probable that Tesla will at least fill the gap at $911.

Fabulous trading for the shorts.

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 15th, 2021, 7:27 pm

Starlink antennas placed at Tesla superchargers:

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/39 ... um=twitter

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Postby BobbyD » November 15th, 2021, 11:40 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:
BobbyD wrote:
Tesla has a serious phantom braking problem in Autopilot


- https://electrek.co/2021/11/15/tesla-se ... autopilot/


Oh Dear, it seems to be like the phantom braking that Red Sturgeon found so annoying with his VW that he turned it off.

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If I recall RS had an issue pulling out of a drive on a gradient, not breaking suddenly while driving on the highway in a manner so worrying to a number of drivers that they have contacted the NHTSA...

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 16th, 2021, 12:53 pm

Promotional video for Rolls Royce modular small reactor with a claim that one of these can run for 60 years:

https://youtu.be/cFFS_P3EnMk

I remain unconvinced that this will ever be a practical product.

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Postby odysseus2000 » November 16th, 2021, 1:18 pm

For anyone not up to speed on small modular nuclear reactors this is a good introduction:

https://youtu.be/yofGtxEgpI8

In terms of Tesla and their solar generators & electricity storage, smr will be more expensive, but if deployed could be fed into storage like Tesla cars & power walls.

I believe that the cost, safety concerns & waste storage will be very hard for any manufacturer of smr to overcome, but that for applications like military marine were non of these apply they will remain popular until something better is created. They may also be useful for Lunar & Mars bases although the risk of one being destroyed in a rocket failure with contamination spread over a city might not be funded. They could be created in solace using elements refined from the asteroid belt etc.

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Postby TUK020 » November 17th, 2021, 8:46 am

odysseus2000 wrote:For anyone not up to speed on small modular nuclear reactors this is a good introduction:

https://youtu.be/yofGtxEgpI8

In terms of Tesla and their solar generators & electricity storage, smr will be more expensive, but if deployed could be fed into storage like Tesla cars & power walls.

I believe that the cost, safety concerns & waste storage will be very hard for any manufacturer of smr to overcome, but that for applications like military marine were non of these apply they will remain popular until something better is created. They may also be useful for Lunar & Mars bases although the risk of one being destroyed in a rocket failure with contamination spread over a city might not be funded. They could be created in solace using elements refined from the asteroid belt etc.

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Useful link. I will cross post it on the SMR thread on the Energy page


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