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Scanning/Storing Old Family Photos

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Postby moorfield » April 3rd, 2021, 5:17 pm

Several boxes of old family photos taken from parents house clearance, and their parents house clearance, and so on. Some annotated, some not. Some a valuable record of family history, a lot not. Some a little too precious to lose, but none will come out of the boxes, realistically, and inevitably will get skipped within the next two generations - you know how it is, I'm sure.

So the time has come to start getting these digitized and stored for generations to come, before the originals do/can get lost and skipped. I'm looking for a "cloud" solution for this. Criteria are:

- Free/Low storage cost, ideally not an ongoing subscription service
- Easy to upload from PC/Scanner, not bothered about sorting or grouping, but...
- Ability to annotate individual photos or groups of photos with key words, phrases and/or dates, eg. "moorfield", "2006", "May 2006"
- Said key words, phrases and/or dates must be searchable for future users
- Ability to restrict access to some groups/sets of photos

I'm thinking Google Photos, but I'm not sure it's quite up to the annotation / search bit.

Any thoughts, recommendations welcome - thank you.

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Re: Scanning/Storing Old Family Photos

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Postby ReformedCharacter » April 3rd, 2021, 5:57 pm

moorfield wrote:Several boxes of old family photos taken from parents house clearance, and their parents house clearance, and so on. Some annotated, some not. Some a valuable record of family history, a lot not. Some a little too precious to lose, but none will come out of the boxes, realistically, and inevitably will get skipped within the next two generations - you know how it is, I'm sure.

So the time has come to start getting these digitized and stored for generations to come, before the originals do/can get lost and skipped. I'm looking for a "cloud" solution for this. Criteria are:

- Free/Low storage cost, ideally not an ongoing subscription service
- Easy to upload from PC/Scanner, not bothered about sorting or grouping, but...
- Ability to annotate individual photos or groups of photos with key words, phrases and/or dates, eg. "moorfield", "2006", "May 2006"
- Said key words, phrases and/or dates must be searchable for future users
- Ability to restrict access to some groups/sets of photos

I'm thinking Google Photos, but I'm not sure it's quite up to the annotation / search bit.

Any thoughts, recommendations welcome - thank you.

Google Photos may well do what you want, I've just tried adding a description to a photo and then searching for it. It seemed to work fine but then I didn't try anything particularly complex. Restricting \ allowing access shouldn't be a problem.

RC

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Re: Scanning/Storing Old Family Photos

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Postby JohnB » April 3rd, 2021, 6:09 pm

piwigo is good if you can host your own server. Its best if you can put all the metadata inside the photographs (I use Description, Keywords, CreateDate and do clever filters. Exiftool is an excellent tool for manipulating metadata.

Most online systems are poor at reading this metadata, and even worse at writing it back to the files, so its easy to type in lots of things and then loose them at the whim of Google.

For scanning slides, ask around for anyone who's got a slide scanner with a flip-flop hopper system. They work well, and of course anyone who buys one uses it for a week and then never needs it again.

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Re: Scanning/Storing Old Family Photos

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Postby Cornytiv34 » April 4th, 2021, 2:23 pm

I have a similar problem with both photos and 35mm slides. I am not sure what a slide scanner with a flip flop hopper is. I tried looking it up but got no sensible result. Could you please explain?
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Re: Scanning/Storing Old Family Photos

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Postby Lanark » April 4th, 2021, 5:53 pm

I think a cloud solution is even more likely to get lost than a physical album, these cloud companies, Google in particular, give NO guarantee that they will continue to provide a hosting service in even 5 years time never mind 50. If you die and stop logging in regularly theres a very good chance everything will quietly disappear.

My solution to this is to buy a large, really high quality album, one which contains absolutely no plastic, and curate only the best photos so you have something which people might actually want to inherit.

I have scanned things as well, its best to have both options.

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Re: Scanning/Storing Old Family Photos

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Postby JohnB » April 4th, 2021, 7:26 pm

You have a hopper that drops slides onto a platter that slides in and out. If you have to clip slides in a holder its really tedious, but here its just putting 10 slides in a hopper and inserting them in turn.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DIGITNOW-Resol ... ics&sr=1-5

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Re: Scanning/Storing Old Family Photos

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Postby airbus330 » April 6th, 2021, 5:24 pm

Have a look at the Photomyne App. It is blindingly good. Renders multiple images. Fixes faded colours. Colorizes B&W. Stores logically. Downloadable in batches to your PC. There is an add-on for Slides. Not free, but its the best I have come across if you have a lot of old media to transfer.

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Re: Scanning/Storing Old Family Photos

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Postby ten0rman » April 8th, 2021, 10:36 am

I bought a slide converter which although it worked, did so poorly, I think because it used a central source of light when what was needed was an even light source all over the rear of the slide. T

hen I found someone who had built a light box and used a digital camera to photograph his slides and turn them into a digital format. As a result, I made my own light box (2 x 25W pearl candlelight bulbs inside a box made from white faced mdf board with a small aperture covered by a translucent screen from a redundant slide viewer) and built an adapter to allow my cheapish digital camera to focus correctly on the translucent screen. Actual photographing was done by placing the slide on the translucent screen, placing the camera + adaptor on top and clicking away. I found that I could photograph up to about 15 slides very quickly indeed - anymore than that and the light box became rather warm from the heat of the bulbs. The copied slides were than transferred into the computer and using a program called The Gimp, I was able to a) correct for pincushion & barrel distortion; b) correct the colours, often by means of an automatic function; and c) correct for any problems caused by dust & hairs etc.

It didn't take long to do all my slides, but then I may not have as many as other people. The longest job was slide correction, especially if the slides were in poor condition, indeed I have one slide that I cannot do anything with, and another which I have only been able to recognise because the skyline was familiar, the actual shot being almost unusable. Even on the good slides, the biggest problem was recognising where some of the places were, eg I swore blind one particular place was on the road at the top of Scotland: it turned out to be The Old Man of Storr on Skye!

HTH,

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