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Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby doolally » August 25th, 2021, 12:58 pm

OK, I know the plane images are not to scale, but I still find this scary from a global warming point of view

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Snapshot taken around noon today

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby monabri » August 25th, 2021, 2:34 pm

Not sure what this picture is showing. Do you have a reference link?

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby pje16 » August 25th, 2021, 2:37 pm

The number of flights
as the OP said, images are not to scale - just as well or else they would all be piling into each other :roll:

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby pje16 » August 25th, 2021, 2:39 pm

try this
https://www.flightradar24.com/52.35,-0.67/6
zoom in - it IS scary

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby Lootman » August 25th, 2021, 2:49 pm

doolally wrote:OK, I know the plane images are not to scale, but I still find this scary from a global warming point of view

So all we have to do is force people to not go on holiday or have business overseas or visit family, and we can solve global warming?

Actually probably not since the stats I have seen indicate that aviation only contributes about 3% of global carbon emissions. And that would include cargo and military flights, not just passenger flights. Also about 80% of that is from flights of over 1,500 km for which there is really no travel alternative to flying.

The real growth in civil aviation is in Asia. Not sure the Chinese and Indians are going to listen to lectures from the West about that, and why should they?

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby doolally » August 25th, 2021, 2:51 pm

monabri wrote:Not sure what this picture is showing. Do you have a reference link?

It's showing live flights from https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby doolally » August 25th, 2021, 2:53 pm

Lootman wrote:
doolally wrote:OK, I know the plane images are not to scale, but I still find this scary from a global warming point of view

So all we have to do is force people to not go on holiday or have business overseas or visit family, and we can solve global warming?


Your words, not mine. It's not all we have to do

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby Lootman » August 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm

doolally wrote:
Lootman wrote:
doolally wrote:OK, I know the plane images are not to scale, but I still find this scary from a global warming point of view

So all we have to do is force people to not go on holiday or have business overseas or visit family, and we can solve global warming?

Your words, not mine. It's not all we have to do

Maybe that is not all we should do. My point was more that I do not think even that can be achieved, so we may have to do more of whatever else it is that you think we need to do.

Ultimately it is about what the voters are willing to accept in terms of having their lives and freedoms restricted. Based on the response to Covid restrictions, I'd say it is not clear either way, and Covid is/was an immediate threat and not a future threat.

Global civil aviation is projected to double by the year 2050, mostly in developing countries. We are probably going to build a third runway at Heathrow, whilst Gatwick is going to make changes to allow its backup runway to be a second active runway. There is no sign yet of what you advocate for,
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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby pje16 » August 25th, 2021, 2:59 pm

Lootman wrote:So all we have to do is force people to not go on holiday or have business overseas or visit family, and we can solve global warming?

That would be a drop in the ocean
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-c ... -emissions

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby bungeejumper » August 25th, 2021, 4:32 pm

doolally wrote:It's showing live flights from https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

What an annoyingly fascinating website. :D There goes an idle 15 minutes that I spent following Ospreys and Chinooks around at low altitudes on Salisbury Plain. And right on cue, a US Hercules came over our house exactly as scheduled. (As indeed it should have. There'd have been something amiss otherwise.)

We get a lot of vintage aircraft here, mostly flying up from the Fleet Air Arm at Yeovilton, where they like to keep them flying wherever possible. It'll be quite interesting to see whether the site can identify them.

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby airbus330 » September 9th, 2021, 2:41 pm

You want scary and close to stuff, try this https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/pilot ... RLCX2CYBU/

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Re: Scary aeroplane picture

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Postby pje16 » September 9th, 2021, 2:49 pm

Better not try it under the Holmesdale Tunnel M25 (J25) :lol:


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