The Lemon Fool

OK, I know the plane images are not to scale, but I still find this scary from a global warming point of view



Snapshot taken around noon today

doolally

Not sure what this picture is showing. Do you have a reference link?

The number of flights
as the OP said, images are not to scale - just as well or else they would all be piling into each other

try this
https://www.flightradar24.com/52.35,-0.67/6
zoom in - it IS scary

doolally wrote:OK, I know the plane images are not to scale, but I still find this scary from a global warming point of view

So all we have to do is force people to not go on holiday or have business overseas or visit family, and we can solve global warming?

Actually probably not since the stats I have seen indicate that aviation only contributes about 3% of global carbon emissions. And that would include cargo and military flights, not just passenger flights. Also about 80% of that is from flights of over 1,500 km for which there is really no travel alternative to flying.

The real growth in civil aviation is in Asia. Not sure the Chinese and Indians are going to listen to lectures from the West about that, and why should they?

monabri wrote:Not sure what this picture is showing. Do you have a reference link?

It's showing live flights from https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

doolally

Lootman wrote:

doolally wrote:OK, I know the plane images are not to scale, but I still find this scary from a global warming point of view

So all we have to do is force people to not go on holiday or have business overseas or visit family, and we can solve global warming?

Your words, not mine. It's not all we have to do

doolally

doolally wrote:

Lootman wrote:

doolally wrote:OK, I know the plane images are not to scale, but I still find this scary from a global warming point of view

So all we have to do is force people to not go on holiday or have business overseas or visit family, and we can solve global warming?

Your words, not mine. It's not all we have to do

Maybe that is not all we should do. My point was more that I do not think even that can be achieved, so we may have to do more of whatever else it is that you think we need to do.

Ultimately it is about what the voters are willing to accept in terms of having their lives and freedoms restricted. Based on the response to Covid restrictions, I'd say it is not clear either way, and Covid is/was an immediate threat and not a future threat.

Global civil aviation is projected to double by the year 2050, mostly in developing countries. We are probably going to build a third runway at Heathrow, whilst Gatwick is going to make changes to allow its backup runway to be a second active runway. There is no sign yet of what you advocate for,

Lootman wrote:So all we have to do is force people to not go on holiday or have business overseas or visit family, and we can solve global warming?

That would be a drop in the ocean
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-c ... -emissions

doolally wrote:It's showing live flights from https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

What an annoyingly fascinating website. There goes an idle 15 minutes that I spent following Ospreys and Chinooks around at low altitudes on Salisbury Plain. And right on cue, a US Hercules came over our house exactly as scheduled. (As indeed it should have. There'd have been something amiss otherwise.)

We get a lot of vintage aircraft here, mostly flying up from the Fleet Air Arm at Yeovilton, where they like to keep them flying wherever possible. It'll be quite interesting to see whether the site can identify them.

BJ

You want scary and close to stuff, try this https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/pilot ... RLCX2CYBU/

Better not try it under the Holmesdale Tunnel M25 (J25)