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Feasibility of colony on Mars
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Feasibility of colony on Mars
Hi, what's your opinion on colonising Mars? Do you think it'll happen in next few years? And will it be a 'colony' like an Antartica solitary outpost, or could there be a metropolis but with people living inside domes.
I'm kind of leaning towards SpaceX and NASA getting there but great practical difficulties setting up a habitable city, and maybe thousands of years to terraform the surface. But I don't know much about it.
Wouldn't better alternative be spend the billions on trying to make more remote parts of earth more habitable?
I'm kind of leaning towards SpaceX and NASA getting there but great practical difficulties setting up a habitable city, and maybe thousands of years to terraform the surface. But I don't know much about it.
Wouldn't better alternative be spend the billions on trying to make more remote parts of earth more habitable?
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
Radiation exposure: Mars does not have a protective magnetic field like Earth, which means that humans on Mars would be exposed to high levels of radiation from space.
Life-support systems: Any colony on Mars would need to be completely self-sufficient, with its own systems for producing food, water, and oxygen. This would require advanced life-support technologies that can operate in the harsh Martian environment.
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Life-support systems: Any colony on Mars would need to be completely self-sufficient, with its own systems for producing food, water, and oxygen. This would require advanced life-support technologies that can operate in the harsh Martian environment.
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https://chat.openai.com/chat
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
CliffEdge wrote:They'll all die
So what would be the end result if they stayed on Earth?
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
swill453 wrote:CliffEdge wrote:They'll all die
So what would be the end result if they stayed on Earth?
Scott.
they live for longer- obvs
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
As I understand it, a Martian colony would be set up in the huge tunnels that apparently are common on Mars so as to be protected from the radiation.
I think there is a high risk of it being a one way trip, and not a pleasant place to live!
I think there is a high risk of it being a one way trip, and not a pleasant place to live!
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
ps the good news, for some, is that apparently Elon Musk wants to go and live there. The ultimate tax haven
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scrumpyjack wrote:ps the good news, for some, is that apparently Elon Musk wants to go and live there. The ultimate tax haven
Or penal colony.
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Lootman wrote:scrumpyjack wrote:ps the good news, for some, is that apparently Elon Musk wants to go and live there. The ultimate tax haven
Or penal colony.
I'd really like to see Musk on a monitor waving and grinning from the surface of Mars.
Then for us to unplug the monitor and never turn it on again.
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
Lootman wrote:Or penal colony.
The problem with sending a bunch of criminals to Mars is that in a few generations they'd be thrashing us at cricket.
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
"next few years"???
I reckon it will be at least 50 years before we get someone there, let alone to start a colony. To create a ship with the propulsion and the shielding required to get someone there and back safely will require som major technological improvements, perhaps fission or fusion power, and global collaboration, and that isn't going to happen any time soon.
Paul
I reckon it will be at least 50 years before we get someone there, let alone to start a colony. To create a ship with the propulsion and the shielding required to get someone there and back safely will require som major technological improvements, perhaps fission or fusion power, and global collaboration, and that isn't going to happen any time soon.
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
It depends on time scales that you are looking at. It's a long way if you forget something.
Plus who would realistic want to say there. I can imagine a few who would like a trip but not permanently.
There I'd a good film that might interest you
Plus who would realistic want to say there. I can imagine a few who would like a trip but not permanently.
There I'd a good film that might interest you
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
Gerry557 wrote:It depends on time scales that you are looking at. It's a long way if you forget something.
And there we go Gentlemen. A successful launch and we're on our way to the Red planet.
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Errr.....I need a pish.
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
Tedx wrote:
And there we go Gentlemen. A successful launch and we're on our way to the Red planet.
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Errr.....I need a pish.
It didn't stop Alan Shepard...
It was expected that lift off would occur in another two hours and five minutes,[71] so Shepard's suit did not have any provision for elimination of bodily wastes, but after being strapped into the capsule's seat, launch delays kept him in that suit for over four hours.[72] Shepard's endurance gave out before launch, and he was forced to empty his bladder into the suit. Medical sensors attached to it to track the astronaut's condition in flight were turned off to avoid shorting them out. The urine pooled in the small of his back, where it was absorbed by his undergarment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Shepard
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
Bubblesofearth wrote:Lootman wrote:Or penal colony.
The problem with sending a bunch of criminals to Mars is that in a few generations they'd be thrashing us at cricket.
Good point, send only male prisoners to Mars. The female perps go to Venus.
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
Bubblesofearth wrote:Lootman wrote:Or penal colony.
The problem with sending a bunch of criminals to Mars is that in a few generations they'd be thrashing us at cricket.
BoE
One problem that those who stayed on Earth almost certainly wouldn't have to worry about. The Mars colonists would be adapted to Mar's lower gravity which would result in them having lower muscle strength. That might be counteracted for Earth teams travelling to Mar's by their also losing muscle strength if they were weightless on the trip ( though for Martian teams travelling to play on Earth that would make things worse for them).
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
ursaminortaur wrote:Bubblesofearth wrote:Lootman wrote:Or penal colony.
The problem with sending a bunch of criminals to Mars is that in a few generations they'd be thrashing us at cricket.
BoE
One problem that those who stayed on Earth almost certainly wouldn't have to worry about. The Mars colonists would be adapted to Mar's lower gravity which would result in them having lower muscle strength. That might be counteracted for Earth teams travelling to Mar's by their also losing muscle strength if they were weightless on the trip ( though for Martian teams travelling to play on Earth that would make things worse for them).
Mars will through necessity adapt and develop better military tech, and be more suited to 3D combat.
It's the "Belters" you've got to watch for though
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
I can't help thinking the time effort, cost and innovation would be far better spent getting our own planet healthy again. Who would ever want to live on a bleak, cold and dead place? OK perhaps really fat people, thanks to the weaker gravity. The fact that Musk seems to think there's a future there is far more an indication of his hyper-inflated ego than any medium term reality.
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Re: Feasibility of colony on Mars
Leothebear wrote:I can't help thinking the time effort, cost and innovation would be far better spent getting our own planet healthy again. Who would ever want to live on a bleak, cold and dead place? OK perhaps really fat people, thanks to the weaker gravity. The fact that Musk seems to think there's a future there is far more an indication of his hyper-inflated ego than any medium term reality.
But is the idea really that different than the explorers and colonialists of centuries ago? I imagine that, in their day, people like Columbus, Magellan and Drake were also mocked for their fantasies and wild ideas, and yet they changed the world forever.
I think that we should boldly go . . .
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