Live stream of lunar landing tonight

[88V8]

Here, starting at 2100h tonight, you can watch a live stream of the latest attempt to land - as opposed to crash - on the moon.
Hopefully the Odysseus, the first US lander in five decades, will land the right way up.

V8

[XFool]

Here, starting at 2100h tonight, you can watch a live stream of the latest attempt to land - as opposed to crash - on the moon.
Hopefully the Odysseus, the first US lander in five decades, will land the right way up.

He's leaving us?

[odysseus2000]

This is another stream for watching my attempt to land on the moon:

https://earthsky.org/spaceflight/im-1-l ... 640faafb79

Regards,

[Tedx]

So would this be the first livestreeamed lunar landing since Apollo?

[ReformedCharacter]

So would this be the first livestreeamed lunar landing since Apollo?

Happy to be wrong but I don't think so. More likely live images of mission control with infographics of the event.

RC

[odysseus2000]

So would this be the first livestreeamed lunar landing since Apollo?

Happy to be wrong but I don't think so. More likely live images of mission control with infographics of the event.

RC

You called this right!

Nice confusion, uncertainty & preparation for failure & then things seemed to work & Nasa administrator is calling it a success.

It would be so much better if there was video as well, but this seems like a nothing but essential equipment & the good news is that seem to have landed intact & established communication.

Regards,

[servodude]

Happy to be wrong but I don't think so. More likely live images of mission control with infographics of the event.

RC

You called this right!

Nice confusion, uncertainty & preparation for failure & then things seemed to work & Nasa administrator is calling it a success.

It would be so much better if there was video as well, but this seems like a nothing but essential equipment & the good news is that seem to have landed intact & established communication.

Regards,

They made a bit of a big deal about it having a self deploying camera to capture a 3rd person view of it landing
- a sort of "space selfie stick", but they had a bland name for it
- perhaps they'll get footage from it eventually

the live stream though was a bit like watching a really boring series of adverts for stuff that people were trying really hard to convince me I needed - but I suppose they're rocket surgeons not entertainers

[odysseus2000]

You called this right!

Nice confusion, uncertainty & preparation for failure & then things seemed to work & Nasa administrator is calling it a success.

It would be so much better if there was video as well, but this seems like a nothing but essential equipment & the good news is that seem to have landed intact & established communication.

Regards,

They made a bit of a big deal about it having a self deploying camera to capture a 3rd person view of it landing
- a sort of "space selfie stick", but they had a bland name for it
- perhaps they'll get footage from it eventually

the live stream though was a bit like watching a really boring series of adverts for stuff that people were trying really hard to convince me I needed - but I suppose they're rocket surgeons not entertainers

Presumably the landing selfie stick transmits to the main lander using Bluetooth or Wi-Fi (assuming it is not tethered) & then the images are sent via the landers aerial back to earth. If this is the case we should get the what ever the selfie recorded quite quickly, maybe they have it now.

From the stream this was presented as a humanity mission for all humans, but the entire emphasis was of this being the first US private mission, sort of forgetting the recent Indian lander with video of its “car” leaving the ship & the upside down Japanese lander.

Given the huge improvements in all aspect of space technology, especially electronics, since Apollo, this mission does so far seem a little bland & lacking in the bells & whistles needed to bring more interest. Sure it’s a first for a private business & that has to be celebrated, but we now expect a lot more from everything & an instruments only landing so far without any images won’t generate a lot of excitement & has a 1950’s feel to it.

Regards,

[chrissyr]

What a disappointment - was expecting a live feed of the landing (ok a bit of delay) but a couple of people having a clap together 5 mins after the landing!

My wife said didn't we do more than this 50 odd years ago?

[odysseus2000]

What a disappointment - was expecting a live feed of the landing (ok a bit of delay) but a couple of people having a clap together 5 mins after the landing!

My wife said didn't we do more than this 50 odd years ago?

Yes, 50 years ago, much more was done, but this cost around $116 m dollars, Apollo cost over $25b, over $250b adjusted for inflation:

https://www.planetary.org/space-policy/ ... %20dollars.

The idea is to commercialize the moon, paying private contractors to develop their own technology & to save the tax payers money with the intention of establishing a lunar economy with private money. Historically most of the developments of various European empires, including the British empire, were done with private money, the tax payers providing military support, while the private companies developed the resources, not always to the betterment of the indigenous people who lived there.

Regards,

[odysseus2000]

Still no images of the landing or from the lander, possible update later today when US wakes up on the Intuitive machines web site:

https://www.intuitivemachines.com/im-1

Regards,

[Tedx]

Footage here:

https://youtu.be/lxGGyr3JbzU?si=HIaKUFTjbdsXZkyP

[servodude]

Footage here:

https://youtu.be/lxGGyr3JbzU?si=HIaKUFTjbdsXZkyP

that's going to be the f*ing clangers or Peter Sellers isn't it!?

[odysseus2000]

Intuitive machines say there will be a press conference later today:

https://www.intuitivemachines.com/im-1

They also note that Odysseus is functioning & they are down loading science data, but no statement on the camera video designed to show the plume of moon dust (regolith) put up by the engine thrust.

Regards,

[odysseus2000]

Press conference:

https://www.youtube.com/live/ZWEwR8fscF ... Slln7J8lhX

Regards,

[odysseus2000]

Super impressive press conference.

Very good points made & some good questions, albeit none from amateurs, just trade press.

The effort & speed that went into replacing the laser range finder that was safety locked to prevent human eye damage was like something out of Apollo 13 & it worked.

Obviously disappointing that the space craft is tilted & not vertical, possibly following landing collision with a rock, but most (all?) of the experimental instruments seems to be working & there is about 9 more days of operation before the instrument loses solar illumination & likely fails & will not restart when it next gets in sun light.

One question not asked was could they do a quick burn to right the space craft, but I presume the answer is no.

Regards,

[ReformedCharacter]

A pity another lander has ended up on its side. According to the press conference the lander was traveling at 6mph vertically and 2mph horizontally when it landed. Moving horizontally can only increase the chance of the lander 'tripping over' a rock. Apparently the laser rangefinders weren't working correctly which I assume is the reason for this.

As they prepared for descent yesterday, mission team members discovered that Odysseus' laser rangefinders, which the lander used to determine its altitude and horizontal velocity, weren't working properly. So they switched over to an experimental NASA instrument that Odysseus was carrying, pressing it into service for vital landing operations.

https://www.space.com/intuitive-machines-odysseus-moon-lander-no-landing-photos

RC

[odysseus2000]

A pity another lander has ended up on its side. According to the press conference the lander was traveling at 6mph vertically and 2mph horizontally when it landed. Moving horizontally can only increase the chance of the lander 'tripping over' a rock. Apparently the laser rangefinders weren't working correctly which I assume is the reason for this.

As they prepared for descent yesterday, mission team members discovered that Odysseus' laser rangefinders, which the lander used to determine its altitude and horizontal velocity, weren't working properly. So they switched over to an experimental NASA instrument that Odysseus was carrying, pressing it into service for vital landing operations.

https://www.space.com/intuitive-machines-odysseus-moon-lander-no-landing-photos

RC

Yes, the onboard lasers are eye injuring, so were locked to prevent eye damage while testing, but the lock wasn’t released before flight, so they had a mad scramble to re-purpose the NASA lasers. Given all of this it’s quite miraculous that it landed with all the experiments pointing away from the ground, save one that can still function.

It is strange that they don’t retro out the horizontal velocity to give a pure vertical decent, but perhaps the horizontal velocity is needed in case it spots something in the way of landing.

Regards,

[ukmtk]

Maybe future lunar landers need to have a "this way up" on the side just so people can tell which way it is oriented?

[ReformedCharacter]

Maybe future lunar landers need to have a "this way up" on the side just so people can tell which way it is oriented?

Despite clear instructions, that didn't prevent a technician installing accelerometers upside down on a Russian Proton-M - which crashed as a consequence:

...a report from Russian Space Web says investigators have traced the problem to a series of sensors that were apparently installed upside down.

The so-called angular velocity sensors (дачик угловой скорости in Russian, according to NPR's Moscow bureau) were a critical part of the circuitry that kept the rocket upright during launch. They were so important, says Russian Space Web, that they even had little arrows on them that were supposed to point toward the top of the rocket.

Quite a spectacular video here:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/10/200775748/report-upside-down-sensors-toppled-russian-rocket

RC