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Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Re: Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Postby DiamondEcho » December 20th, 2018, 9:06 pm

colin wrote:Sir Isac Newton believed that God himself had decreed the laws of physics so clearly his religious belief was not incompatible with evolution even though he had presumably never come across the concept in his time.

No I don't think so, and it was at a time when 'not believing' could have you lynched:

'Like many contemporaries (e.g., Thomas Aikenhead) he lived with the threat of severe punishment if he had been open about his religious beliefs. Heresy was a crime that could have been punishable by the loss of all property and status or even death (see, e.g., the Blasphemy Act 1697). Because of his secrecy over his religious beliefs, Newton has been described as a Nicodemite.[9]
According to most scholars, Newton was Arian, not holding to Trinitarianism.[9][21][22] 'In Newton's eyes, worshipping Christ as God was idolatry, to him the fundamental sin'.[23] As well as being antitrinitarian, Newton allegedly rejected the orthodox doctrines of the immortal soul,[9] a personal devil and literal demons.[9] Although he was not a Socinian he shared many similar beliefs with them.[9] A manuscript he sent to John Locke in which he disputed the existence of the Trinity was never published. In a minority view, T.C. Pfizenmaier argued Newton was neither "orthodox" nor an Arian,[24] but that, rather, Newton believed both of these groups had wandered into metaphysical speculation.[25] Pfizenmaier also argued that Newton held closer to the Eastern Orthodox view of the Trinity rather than the Western one held by Roman Catholics and Protestants.[25] However, S. D. Snobelen has argued against this from manuscripts produced late in Newton's life which demonstrate Newton rejected the Eastern view of the Trinity.[9]
Newton refused viaticum before his death.[8]'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious ... aac_Newton

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Re: Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Postby colin » December 20th, 2018, 11:05 pm

That's what Diarmaid McCullough said on the last broadcast episode of BBC's History of Christianity.

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Re: Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Postby funduffer » March 1st, 2020, 8:37 am

The answer to the question is 'true' for the majority of religions, but also 'false' for some others (Eg Buddhism):

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn ... ompatible/

It depends on how your religion views how the world was created.

You pays your money (and most religions do charge!), and you takes your choice!

FD

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Re: Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Postby scrumpyjack » March 1st, 2020, 9:48 am

As a recent convert to Pastafarianism, I am looking into this religion's view of the issue.

https://www.spaghettimonster.org/

An interesting letter on this topic

https://www.spaghettimonster.org/about/open-letter/

"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him."

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Re: Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Postby Snorvey » March 1st, 2020, 9:54 am

The thing is....religion is easy and science is, well, difficult.

Many people take the easier option.

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Re: Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Postby JamesMuenchen » March 1st, 2020, 9:58 am

Religion evolves.

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Re: Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Postby scrumpyjack » March 1st, 2020, 10:26 am

JamesMuenchen wrote:Religion evolves.


Yes 'it's curious that God is still always male. You would have thought IT would have evolved, perhaps to be Trans?

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Re: Evolution and religion are incompatible. True or false?

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Postby GoSeigen » March 1st, 2020, 11:22 am

scrumpyjack wrote:
JamesMuenchen wrote:Religion evolves.


Yes 'it's curious that God is still always male. You would have thought IT would have evolved, perhaps to be Trans?


Woooosh, over head...


GS


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