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The Hand of God

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Re: The Hand of God

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Postby bungeejumper » January 13th, 2021, 8:39 am

XFool wrote:The American Abyss

[url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/magazine/trump-coup.html]The New York Times Magazine[/url

Excellent argument, that expresses a lot of pretty obvious points that need saying more clearly.
Post-truth is pre-fascism, and Trump has been our post-truth president. When we give up on truth, we concede power to those with the wealth and charisma to create spectacle in its place. Without agreement about some basic facts, citizens cannot form the civil society that would allow them to defend themselves. If we lose the institutions that produce facts that are pertinent to us, then we tend to wallow in attractive abstractions and fictions. Truth defends itself particularly poorly when there is not very much of it around

That would have been no news to Goebbels, who wrote a whole treatise about what you could do if you could only defeat the public's faith in the truth by means of an avalanche of lies. It messes up the brain. And then the messed-up brain messes up everything else, and you've got 'em all roped and tied.

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Re: The Hand of God

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Postby XFool » January 13th, 2021, 3:06 pm

For an amusing take on the recent history of the US Republican Party and how we got to where we are:

BBC Sounds: The Republicans

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Re: The Hand of God

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Postby ReformedCharacter » January 13th, 2021, 4:11 pm

bungeejumper wrote:That would have been no news to Goebbels, who wrote a whole treatise about what you could do if you could only defeat the public's faith in the truth by means of an avalanche of lies. It messes up the brain. And then the messed-up brain messes up everything else, and you've got 'em all roped and tied.

BJ

Interesting comment about Goebbels, having listened to one of Donny junior's post-election rants about 'Total War':

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 34841.html

...to fight each and every one to the death...

I can't be the only person to have recognised the phrase made famous by Goebbels at the speech he made at the Sportpalast in 1943.

The man knows no shame, like his father.

RC


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