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What do you think happens when we die?

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Re: What do you think happens when we die?

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Postby MuddyBoots » May 4th, 2024, 8:32 pm

One possible avenue is to investigate out of body experiences (OBEs) or astral travelling, where people claim to leave their body whilst alive and to not only visit other places on earth, but other astral realms where spirits of the dead are also present. The problem is that these (like near-death experiences) are subjective and don't provide objective evidence to convince sceptics and scientists (although there may be some research into remote viewing, and there's reports that intelligence agencies have experimented with it.)

I've had a couple of OBEs myself, clear enough to make me open to the possibility of life after death and other dimensions but of course I can't prove that it wasn't some kind of dream.

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Re: What do you think happens when we die?

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Postby stewamax » June 17th, 2024, 8:45 pm

These are, of course, near-death experiences. What happens after death may be completely different.

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Re: What do you think happens when we die?

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Postby 1nvest » July 18th, 2024, 11:43 pm

Grey's never die. They at worst just roll back to their last backup (upload of their consciousness).

Biological life evolves according to its environment. Environments are varying and unstable and AI (advanced intelligent life) would have to evolve into a technological life in order to realistically survive/travel. 100 light years journeys for a device that can slow its internal clock to one tick per year ... is less than a 2 minute journey away.

To expand outward involves initial subliminal/slow speeds, but once reached might have others conveyed at light (communications) speed. Fire a small device at high subliminal speed, that upon arrival is designed to construct a 'replicator and communicator' and thereafter things/beings might also be conveyed at light speed to that location.

Hydrogen is the most abundant element throughout the universe. Metal hydrogen has never been seen, but if scientists make it they'd be able to conduct electricity without resistance, or have a superfluid that defies gravity. Room temperature superconductivity. Believed to exist inside giant planets like Jupiter the closest that scientist come has been to squeeze hydrogen between two pieces of diamond and seen it transform into a lustrous, shiny thing - what you expect for a metal. Predictions suggest metal hydrogen may even be metastable - remaining solid even after the crushing pressure is removed.

The commonly believed grey alien bodies are ... basic/simple humanoid containers formed according to our local biology/environment. Others might take the form of a dolphin or suchlike. Initially a empty vessel that then has a conscious 'uploaded' to it from a distance at light speed communication speeds. Its memories/diary are then recorded and the conscious 'downloaded' and communicated back. For such AI there is no death, as are distances trivial. Biological life such as humans ... are seen as trivial/irrelevant, of passing interest, little different to a nest of ants. Ants may have their own ant-heaven and believe their soul moves into some other plane. AI might feel no need to believe in such religious matters. But belief and communities are a good thing for biological beings - helping others. Just a shame that so many have died in arguments about which belief/religion is the 'better'. Very much like fleas arguing about which flea owns the dog.

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Re: What do you think happens when we die?

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Postby BellaHubby » July 19th, 2024, 8:37 am

1nvest wrote:Grey's never die. They at worst just roll back to their last backup (upload of their consciousness).

Biological life evolves according to its environment. Environments are varying and unstable and AI (advanced intelligent life) would have to evolve into a technological life in order to realistically survive/travel. 100 light years journeys for a device that can slow its internal clock to one tick per year ... is less than a 2 minute journey away.

To expand outward involves initial subliminal/slow speeds, but once reached might have others conveyed at light (communications) speed. Fire a small device at high subliminal speed, that upon arrival is designed to construct a 'replicator and communicator' and thereafter things/beings might also be conveyed at light speed to that location.

Hydrogen is the most abundant element throughout the universe. Metal hydrogen has never been seen, but if scientists make it they'd be able to conduct electricity without resistance, or have a superfluid that defies gravity. Room temperature superconductivity. Believed to exist inside giant planets like Jupiter the closest that scientist come has been to squeeze hydrogen between two pieces of diamond and seen it transform into a lustrous, shiny thing - what you expect for a metal. Predictions suggest metal hydrogen may even be metastable - remaining solid even after the crushing pressure is removed.

The commonly believed grey alien bodies are ... basic/simple humanoid containers formed according to our local biology/environment. Others might take the form of a dolphin or suchlike. Initially a empty vessel that then has a conscious 'uploaded' to it from a distance at light speed communication speeds. Its memories/diary are then recorded and the conscious 'downloaded' and communicated back. For such AI there is no death, as are distances trivial. Biological life such as humans ... are seen as trivial/irrelevant, of passing interest, little different to a nest of ants. Ants may have their own ant-heaven and believe their soul moves into some other plane. AI might feel no need to believe in such religious matters. But belief and communities are a good thing for biological beings - helping others. Just a shame that so many have died in arguments about which belief/religion is the 'better'. Very much like fleas arguing about which flea owns the dog.

Which AI tool did you copy that from?

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